Reply to: Was Obama a success ?

[filthy1980]

Lots of hope no change

he is a good speaker but when I hear that description of him it always reminds me of Chris Rock's bit "but he speaks so well"

[BlueSharp]

He did ok. He never had the house of representatives so many of his directives never got passed the house.

Now Trump does have the house so he can get some radical right wing policies through it.

[WTFH]

Everybody had low expectations for W, but perhaps he wasn't as bad as people might have thought.

Depends how highly you value human lives.

[VectraMan]

There was enormous hype about Obama, so if you consider hype vs achievement he's probably a spectacular failure. Though Trump may well trump him on that.

Everybody had low expectations for W, but perhaps he wasn't as bad as people might have thought.

[sasguru]

Obama Leaves U.S.A $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt

He had to spend to save the US from a depression.
Debt went up in all Western countries, even the most well-run, Germany, for that very reason.
And wait till Trump implements his spending plans - he has no choice but to spend on unnecessary stuff in the hinterland to placate his voters.

[AtW]

Bollux. He saved the economy, by ignoring ideological Republicans, who would rather have had a re-run of the 30s.
For that alone the US ought to be grateful.

Hmmm bankers jumping out of windows, what's not to like?

[AtW]

No, total failure - we would not have Trump otherwise

[greenlake]

Obama Leaves U.S.A $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt

(CNSNews.com) - President Barack Obama will leave the federal government approximately $9,335,000,000,000 deeper in debt than it was when he took office eight years ago, according to data released today by the U.S. Treasury.

The increased debt incurred under Obama equals approximately $75,129 for every person in the United States who had a full-time job in December.

[sasguru]

A fair summary, I feel.

Bollux. He saved the economy, by ignoring ideological Republicans, who would rather have had a re-run of the 30s.
For that alone the US ought to be grateful.

[NotAllThere]

He was a good singer and comedian. Excelled at both. Other than that, did nothing really.

A fair summary, I feel.

[VillageContractor]

I think he brought dignity to the office and someone who probably wanted to do more. But he didn't do enough, and so has failed.

[fullyautomatix]

He was a good singer and comedian. Excelled at both. Other than that, did nothing really.

[Mordac]

Not the saviour of mankind some idiots (including the Nobel Peace Prize committes) thought he'd be. Would someone else as president done any better? I doubt it.

Will Trump be the unmitigated disaster that the idiots who thought Obama was the saviour think he'll be? I doubt it.

Would any president have done any better without a majority in both houses? At least the Mayor of Trumpton won't have that excuse.

[sasguru]

I would say Obama was weak in foreign affairs, he let Russia and China get away with far too much.
But his greatest achievement was making some decisive steps to fix the US economy when it was on the verge of meltdown when he took office in 2008. Not all those stpes were popular but he did what he had to do.
Also he was hamstrung by Republican coontrol of the House.

[LondonManc]

Bit of a mixed bag achievement wise but presidents can have their policy desires hamstrung by others. That said, his success in equality for Americans in terms of gender and orientation was good, while he failed in the Crimea. Obamacare is controversial but there needs to be some sort of revision of health care provision in America.

A good public speaker, very much an appeaser but not in the weak Neville Chamberlain way. Interesting stance on their space policy to ditch going back to the moon (if they ever went ) in favour of Mars.