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Previously on "May's silence"

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Phillip Hammond has already indicated he is willing to cut CT rates to make the UK more attractive to businesses post Brexit.
    And increase dividend tax?

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Not necessarily.


    Yes but employees are forced to opt-out anyway except in jobs they can't for health and safety reasons.
    Nope, only certain groups are legally exempted. It's illegal to force someone to opt out if they are not in one of those, or discriminate against them if they refuse to opt out when asked.

    https://worksmart.org.uk/work-rights...ing-time-rules

    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Not any of these particularly age - due to ageing population and pensions crisis - and sexual orientation - there are sufficient gay Tory MPs and the Government want to keep the gay vote.
    Age discrimination legislation came in from the EU because older people who wanted to work were discriminated against. Nothing has changed that means employer wouldn't rather hire younger people that they will get more time out of, will have fewer sick days etc.

    There are still plenty of people who would gladly see the back of equality legislation in respect to sexual orientation and plenty of conservatives who campaign for it to be revoked.

    Employers would gladly see the back of regulations forcing them to treat part timers and those on FTC's as regular employees.

    Traditional thinking on the right is that anything that makes life easier for business is good.

    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    Rest breaks are health and safety law. We are one of the countries who helped shaped H&S laws in Europe.
    Rest breaks such as lunch breaks and rest between working days are not part of health and safety, they stem from the Working Time Directive. There are additional rules around working time and rest where health and safety are an issue but this is not related to that.

    https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work/overview

    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    Paid holiday is to do with religion plus you can still force employees to take certain days off.
    Paid holiday is nothing to do with religion. And while you can be told to take days off, employers still have to pay you for those days. Remove the right to paid holiday and you wont get it. Up until the WTD was introduced in 1998 tere was no right in the UK to a minimum number of paid holidays a year.

    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    Leave for working parents was a coalition policy campaigned by the Lib Dems and helps with the pensions crisis.
    It was introduced as part of the Social Chapter of the Maastrict treaty and the Conservatives under John Major sought and obtained an opt out from it. It was reintroduced by Tony Blairs government in 1997 when they cancelled the opt out allowing the adoption of the Social Chapter into British Law.

    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    They have been watered down over the years.
    No, TUPE regulations have been updated once, in 2014, from the original 2006 regulations and no-one really regarded it as a watering down.

    http://www.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/l/1...ACCESSIBLE.pdf

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...ome-into-force


    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Yes this will be watered down as this is hated by Tories and agencies/businesses easily work round them.
    Then we agree.

    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Depends.
    Phillip Hammond has already indicated he is willing to cut CT rates to make the UK more attractive to businesses post Brexit.
    Last edited by DaveB; 18 January 2017, 17:35.

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
    Exactly! I guessed Brexit could win, and that Trump had a chance of winning.

    So that's two out of two up against the Bremainiac Clinton-loving losers!
    Did you get good odds on the double?

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    But we provided a better standard of guesswork than the losers.
    Exactly! I guessed Brexit could win, and that Trump had a chance of winning.

    So that's two out of two up against the Bremainiac Clinton-loving losers!

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Given the comments about making the UK "more attractive to business" I'm guessing anything related to employment law originating from the EU will go out of the window.
    Not necessarily.

    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Working Time Directive.
    Yes but employees are forced to opt-out anyway except in jobs they can't for health and safety reasons.

    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Discrimination based on Age, Sexual orientation, religion or employment status (Part time, fixed term etc).
    Not any of these particularly age - due to ageing population and pensions crisis - and sexual orientation - there are sufficient gay Tory MPs and the Government want to keep the gay vote.

    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Rest Breaks, Paid Holiday, Leave for working parents.
    Rest breaks are health and safety law. We are one of the countries who helped shaped H&S laws in Europe.

    Paid holiday is to do with religion plus you can still force employees to take certain days off.

    Leave for working parents was a coalition policy campaigned by the Lib Dems and helps with the pensions crisis.

    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    TUPE regulations
    They have been watered down over the years.

    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Agency Workers Directive
    Yes this will be watered down as this is hated by Tories and agencies/businesses easily work round them.

    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    And a hefty cut in CT for big business (Us minnows wont see it ).
    Depends.

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Unlikely, since that's all the Brexit crowd have offered so far.

    But we provided a better standard of guesswork than the losers.

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    Thanks for that Dave. If we experience any shortage of guesswork we will be in touch.

    Unlikely, since that's all the Brexit crowd have offered so far.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    I'm guessing
    Thanks for that Dave. If we experience any shortage of guesswork we will be in touch.

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  • AtW
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    For example she was totally quiet on thr subject when RAF helicopter gunships will be ordered to open fire on food riots

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Obviously it's what she did not say that will matter.

    So what was it?

    Private NHS?

    Food vouchers instead of pensions system?

    98% tax on unearned income by Korbyn whose rise now seems inevitable?

    Discuss.
    Given the comments about making the UK "more attractive to business" I'm guessing anything related to employment law originating from the EU will go out of the window.

    Working Time Directive.
    Discrimination based on Age, Sexual orientation, religion or employment status (Part time, fixed term etc).
    Rest Breaks, Paid Holiday, Leave for working parents.
    TUPE regulations
    Agency Workers Directive

    And a hefty cut in CT for big business (Us minnows wont see it ).

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Obviously it's what she did not say that will matter.

    So what was it?

    Private NHS?

    Food vouchers instead of pensions system?

    98% tax on unearned income by Korbyn whose rise now seems inevitable?

    Discuss.
    I think you should look at EU discussion documents on tax and pensions before mouthing off about them.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Korbyn whose rise now seems inevitable?

    Discuss.
    Nurse!!! Alexei has skipped his meds again!!

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  • SueEllen
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    May is good at saying SFA that can be interpreted how you like to avoid a war in the Conservative party.

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  • AtW
    started a topic May's silence

    May's silence

    Obviously it's what she did not say that will matter.

    So what was it?

    Private NHS?

    Food vouchers instead of pensions system?

    98% tax on unearned income by Korbyn whose rise now seems inevitable?

    Discuss.

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