Reply to: What is the EU?

[NotAllThere]

What a racist poster - implying all people with darker skins are foreigners.

[The_Equalizer]

What's the point of such an image? Do you want fellow CUKers to pat you on the back and say, yes ScooterScot, you're in the good camp with nice people who all do the right thing and not those thick, racist Brexiters?

A hefty read, but given it's by the chap that had a key role in orchestrating Vote Leave, I found it well worth it:

Dominic Cummings: how the Brexit referendum was won - The Spectator

There were many interesting points, but a couple that really hit home - and particularly apply to CUK posters - was:

"The idea that millions of graduates voted because they ‘studied the issues’ is laughable to anybody who spent time measuring opinion honestly. Almost none of these people know more about what a Customs Unions is than a bricky in Darlington."

"Both sides are just like football team fans defending their in-group and attacking their out-group enemies. The more they think of themselves as original the more likely they are to be conformist – and conformist within very narrow parameters. We all fool ourselves but the more educated are particularly overconfident that they are not fooling themselves. They back their gang then fool themselves that they have reached their views by sensible, intelligent, reasoning."

[scooterscot]

that a common sight round Germany yet?

Not as common as this one in the UK

[vetran]

that a common sight round Germany yet?

[scooterscot]

[vetran]

Now there's a Mickey Mouse response.

He Disney say that!

[NotAllThere]

The EU is s plutocracy.

Now there's a Mickey Mouse response.

[scooterscot]

ah perfect definition

Q. What is the EU?
A. A Failure

I said EU, not UK.

[vetran]

ah perfect definition

Q. What is the EU?
A. A Failure

[PurpleGorilla]

Are you serious? Saying this from a country governed by wealthy Tories?

You must be trolling.

Burn the history books! We can have a big fire and dance around it like.

I agree - both the EU and the UK are plutocracies.

I would also argue that many other EU countries are plutocracies and the USA is a plutocracy too.

[vetran]

MPs' expenses: Full list of MPs investigated

don't see any with multi billion pound fraud. But yes that was embarrassing but at least our accounts get signed off.

If I had been in charge many of the MPs would have been jailed / sacked. Just like a couple of guys who fiddled the expenses at my old firm.

[scooterscot]

The EU is s plutocracy.

Are you serious? Saying this from a country governed by wealthy Tories?

You must be trolling.

Burn the history books! We can have a big fire and dance around it like.

[scooterscot]

Do tell me which British Politician comes close to this level of corruption?

MPs' expenses: Full list of MPs investigated

[vetran]

That thing which Breaminers love, then rationalise their devotion by inventing all kinds of spurious "facts" (often includes ECHR and other organisations which are prequisites of joining the EU), and on which Bremainers use bluster & untruths to defend their misbehaving spouse.

FTFY.

and of course things being a 'condition' of membership of the EU are totally unrelated.

Reality Check: Could the UK stay in EU but leave ECHR? - BBC News

But could the country, as Theresa May suggests, leave the ECHR and abolish the Human Rights Act, but stay in the EU?
That's tricky. There's disagreement between lawyers as to whether adherence to the ECHR is a condition of EU membership, as this House of Commons Library research paper makes clear.
The European Commission has said that it uses being a signatory of the Convention as a way for countries to demonstrate that they have the respect for human rights required for membership.

[chopper]

What is the EU?

It is a project to replace 28 individual nations with a single country called Europe, with 28 states within it.

British people decided they wanted no part of being in a country called Europe. For some reason, some deluded Scottish people believe independence means leaving being a big part of Britain only to become a tiny tiny tiny part of the country of Europe.