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Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
A hefty read, but given it's by the chap that had a key role in orchestrating Vote Leave, I found it well worth it:
Dominic Cummings: how the Brexit referendum was won - The Spectator
There were many interesting points, but a couple that really hit home - and particularly apply to CUK posters - was:
"The idea that millions of graduates voted because they ‘studied the issues’ is laughable to anybody who spent time measuring opinion honestly. Almost none of these people know more about what a Customs Unions is than a bricky in Darlington."
"Both sides are just like football team fans defending their in-group and attacking their out-group enemies. The more they think of themselves as original the more likely they are to be conformist – and conformist within very narrow parameters. We all fool ourselves but the more educated are particularly overconfident that they are not fooling themselves. They back their gang then fool themselves that they have reached their views by sensible, intelligent, reasoning."
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Originally posted by vetran View Postthat a common sight round Germany yet?
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Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View PostThe EU is s plutocracy.
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Originally posted by vetran View Postah perfect definition
Q. What is the EU?
A. A Failure
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostAre you serious? Saying this from a country governed by wealthy Tories?
You must be trolling.
Burn the history books! We can have a big fire and dance around it like.
I would also argue that many other EU countries are plutocracies and the USA is a plutocracy too.
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Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
If I had been in charge many of the MPs would have been jailed / sacked. Just like a couple of guys who fiddled the expenses at my old firm.
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Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View PostThe EU is s plutocracy.
You must be trolling.
Burn the history books! We can have a big fire and dance around it like.
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Originally posted by vetran View Post
Do tell me which British Politician comes close to this level of corruption?
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostThat thing which Breaminers love, then rationalise their devotion by inventing all kinds of spurious "facts" (often includes ECHR and other organisations which are prequisites of joining the EU), and on which Bremainers use bluster & untruths to defend their misbehaving spouse.
and of course things being a 'condition' of membership of the EU are totally unrelated.
Reality Check: Could the UK stay in EU but leave ECHR? - BBC News
But could the country, as Theresa May suggests, leave the ECHR and abolish the Human Rights Act, but stay in the EU?
That's tricky. There's disagreement between lawyers as to whether adherence to the ECHR is a condition of EU membership, as this House of Commons Library research paper makes clear.
The European Commission has said that it uses being a signatory of the Convention as a way for countries to demonstrate that they have the respect for human rights required for membership.
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostWhat is the EU?
British people decided they wanted no part of being in a country called Europe. For some reason, some deluded Scottish people believe independence means leaving being a big part of Britain only to become a tiny tiny tiny part of the country of Europe.
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