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Originally posted by vetran View Postnot sure whether to or
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Originally posted by Paddy View Post
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Originally posted by vetran View Postcheer up soon we will chop hands off for stealing...
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Originally posted by The_Equalizer View PostAnd teaching, but that went a while back.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostIndeed it is - so I suspect we need to stop sending people to prison and bring back 20 lashes for petty thieving and social disturbance - I guarantee it would be significantly reduced in a very short space of time.
Last Friday, [14 March 1817] a woman of the name of Grant, was flogged through the streets of Inverness, we understand for the third time, (once the previous week,) for intoxication and bad behaviour in the streets. No doubt example is necessary, and was here made with the best intention; yet public and repeated flagellation on the naked body of a woman, is revolting to our general ideas of decency and humanity; it is to be regretted, that some equally effectual punishment could not be fallen upon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellation
The Whipping Act was passed in England in 1530. Under this legislation, vagrants were to be taken to a nearby populated area "and there tied to the end of a cart naked and beaten with whips throughout such market town till the body shall be bloody".[1]
In England, offenders (mostly those convicted of theft) were usually sentenced to be flogged "at a cart's tail" along a length of public street, usually near the scene of the crime, "until his [or her] back be bloody". In the late seventeenth century, however, the courts occasionally ordered that the flogging should be carried out in prison or a house of correction rather than on the streets. From the 1720s courts began explicitly to differentiate between private whipping and public whipping. Over the course of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries the proportion of whippings carried out in public declined, but the number of private whippings increased. The public whipping of women was abolished in 1817 (after having been in decline since the 1770s) and that of men ended in the early 1830s, though not formally abolished until 1862. Private whipping of men in prison continued and was not abolished until 1948.[2]
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Originally posted by original PM View PostIndeed it is - so I suspect we need to stop sending people to prison and bring back 20 lashes for petty thieving and social disturbance - I guarantee it would be significantly reduced in a very short space of time.
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Originally posted by original PM View PostIndeed it is - so I suspect we need to stop sending people to prison and bring back 20 lashes for petty thieving and social disturbance - I guarantee it would be significantly reduced in a very short space of time.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostIt is seemingly quite hard to punish people who don't have much to lose. Lots of them view a spell in prison as no big deal whereas I imagine everyone here would be terrified at the prospect [of losing several billing days]
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It is seemingly quite hard to punish people who don't have much to lose. Lots of them view a spell in prison as no big deal whereas I imagine everyone here would be terrified at the prospect [of losing several billing days]
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostThe first time I got done for speeding , I had to go to the police station to hand over my licence. The uniformed police woman behind the desk filled out a form and asked me my Date of Birth which is in June. But I noticed she'd written the month as a 7 on the form. So I said "No June". She looked at me, then looked at the form, looked at me again. I said again "June not July". The she looked more confused and finally picked up the pen again and went over the 7 a couple of times to make sure it was clear.
The main problem the police face is pikeys and chavs being pikes and chavs - until people like that are punished severely for the antisocial and threatening behaviour things will not get better.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostIf you don't spend enough money on one area of social provision then other services e.g. police, firefighters, NHS have to take up the slack.
Now if you fixed them the Police might be able to do a good job.
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Ex-flat mate in a shared house was in the Met, his stories about cleaning up after jumpers on the tracks were some of the worst I've heard
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