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[vetran]

Find me a car that din't rust in the 1970's!

Cars (wherever they are from) have come a long way since then.

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[scooterscot]

Interesting you mentioned German car manafacturers. Mercedes cut costs from the mid-late 1990s to early 2000s and did serious damage to their reputation. Their cars rusted like the shi7e from the 1970s.

Find me a car that din't rust in the 1970's!

Cars (wherever they are from) have come a long way since then.

[scooterscot]

Interesting you mentioned German car manafacturers. Mercedes cut costs from the mid-late 1990s to early 2000s and did serious damage to their reputation. Their cars rusted like the shi7e from the 1970s.

Find me a car that din't rust in the 1970's!

[Paddy]

Because the Bobs etc are cheaper. End of. Quality is not an issue for them, because if they can show a cost reduction, they get their bonus, move on, and hope that some other feckwit gets the blame when the f**k up fairy comes to visit. It's how big business has worked for the last 15 years at least. Cheap is good. And hope the consequences will be someone else's problem.

Had this so many times. Eg, A few years ago at a well-known consultancy; a new departmental manager arrived to cut costs. After a couple of months, 2/3rds of the experienced project team were made redundant. Then a wait of four weeks for recent graduate Bobs to be transferred from Bangalore Office; they were paper qualified but many had never used a computer. Departmental manager receives a large bonus for doing a wonderful job of cutting costs and then buggers off. Projects delayed while HR advertises for local permies at Bob rates. Surprise, no applicants, more Bobs arrive. Lots of poo to clean up in more ways than one.

[vetran]

At least you won't have far to go when you need to borrow a chutney spoon....

pretty happy actually they normally make great Neighbours.

[MrMarkyMark]

At least you won't have far to go when you need to borrow a chutney spoon....

Or a chillum, Boom Shankar

[greenlake]

House next door is up for sale (£600k) only people who came to see it were Indian with multiple generations.

At least you won't have far to go when you need to borrow a chutney spoon....

[vetran]

So a bit like Brits used to live in the mining days then... except then it was 3 generations of the same family in the same house

Nah that's the Indians. House next door is up for sale (£600k) only people who came to see it were Indian with multiple generations.

[The_Equalizer]

Tell that to the privately owned and operated companies like BMW or Porsche. Quality matters. Yes shareholder short-termisn plc is driven by cost for a quick profit. But it's also the quickest route to their grave. There are no winners in the race to the bottom. Period. China being a prime example, built on the back of cheap labour, spiralling growth, and now drunk on debt. They'll now have to compete with west and since they copy everyone else they might find themselves up against the buffers quick sharp.

Really up to what business owners want, legacy/reputation or a quick buck. Can't have both.

Interesting you mentioned German car manafacturers. Mercedes cut costs from the mid-late 1990s to early 2000s and did serious damage to their reputation. Their cars rusted like the shi7e from the 1970s.

[westtester]

Because the Bobs etc are cheaper. End of. Quality is not an issue for them, because if they can show a cost reduction, they get their bonus, move on, and hope that some other feckwit gets the blame when the f**k up fairy comes to visit. It's how big business has worked for the last 15 years at least. Cheap is good. And hope the consequences will be someone else's problem.

I'm in a situation like this right now. We had a flood of Cognizent 'consultants' brought in to make up for a shortfall in devs and testers. They are worse than useless, I can see stressed out permies having to explain the same thing to them over and over again. I've sat in meetings where it's taken the full hour to explain something to them which should be obvious in around 10 minutes to a cretin. Despite a huge headcount, the project is falling behind week on week.....

[d000hg]

£30 PD, based here I have seen, although a run down terraced house in Hounslow, to house 10, was provided.

So a bit like Brits used to live in the mining days then... except then it was 3 generations of the same family in the same house

[SueEllen]

How much apple tech have you bought?

None.



However all my android phones, laptops and other computer bits and pieces come from China.

[scooterscot]

Apple make 500 quid profit off each phone.

Not bad. I bought my last iPhone for €260 (on trading in with the old).

Someone somewhere is good with numbers.

[minestrone]

I'm thinking about your underpants made in some sweatshop in Bangladesh.

Apple places itself in China not just for the cost of labour but also if they want 100,000 screws of this type you just cross the street, or 5,000 screens of this type, the next st along. The working conditions in foxcomm are just like financial boiler rooms in the city!

Apple make 500 quid profit off each phone.

[scooterscot]

How much apple tech have you bought?

I'm thinking about your underpants made in some sweatshop in Bangladesh.

Apple places itself in China not just for the cost of labour but also if they want 100,000 screws of this type you just cross the street, or 5,000 screens of this type, the next st along. The working conditions in foxcomm are just like financial boiler rooms in the city!