Reply to: Where are all the hardcore contractors

[northernladuk]

You must know him from the club.

Sunshine club?

[MarillionFan]

Apparently not. Hes some kind of BS specialist though

You must know him from the club.

[sasguru]

Course he doesn't, he's a PM isn't he? .

Apparently not. Hes some kind of BS specialist though

[northernladuk]

You are a bull tulip generator. Never heard so much crap without any meaning. You know nothing about software development.

Course he doesn't, he's a PM isn't he? .

[adubya]

You are a bull tulip generator. Never heard so much crap without any meaning. You know nothing about software development.

Really ? He's describing exactly the situation in my current gig.

[original PM]

You are a bull tulip generator. Never heard so much crap without any meaning. You know nothing about software development.

"I appreciate your input now please **** off"

Cj

Los Venturas

1994

[woohoo]

I do agree that having a small multiskilled motivated team will achieve more than the crap you get from a large consultancy.

But that is not always the way things pan out so you got to be flexible.

Apparently if I am to believe the feedback I get from clients I am quite useful!

You are a bull tulip generator. Never heard so much crap without any meaning. You know nothing about software development.

[original PM]

Oh I'm sorry I just assumed so as you seem to have all the vocabulary and buzzwords of one of the many useless layers of people that plague this industry.

I do agree that having a small multiskilled motivated team will achieve more than the crap you get from a large consultancy.

But that is not always the way things pan out so you got to be flexible.

Apparently if I am to believe the feedback I get from clients I am quite useful!

[MrMarkyMark]

Oh I'm sorry I just assumed so as you seem to have all the vocabulary and buzzwords of one of the many useless layers of people that plague this industry.

There was I thinking you had made that judgement purely by his username

You're a right analyst, I'll give you that













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[sasguru]

:sigh: when did I ever say I was a PM?

Oh I'm sorry I just assumed so as you seem to have all the vocabulary and buzzwords of one of the many useless layers of people that plague this industry.

[original PM]

So what you're saying is that you're a PM in a commodity environment where you develop "standard noddy websites"?

As opposed to something more interesting like "engineering projects".

Well, given your posts on this subject that makes complete sense.

:sigh: when did I ever say I was a PM?

[sasguru]

I agree this would be completely different if you are coding for obscure engineering projects

but not for standard noddy websites etc

So what you're saying is that you're a PM in a commodity environment where you develop "standard noddy websites"?

As opposed to something more interesting like "engineering projects".

Well, given your posts on this subject that makes complete sense.

[bobspud]

Have you coded using modern tools? there are so many plug ins and code re-uses that a huge chunk of the code written is the same code used again and again.

Its amazing how many coders still insist on RE-writing the wheel though. we had one of our clowns marched off the other week (apart from telling everyone that he did follow architects) code was also poo! turned out he had imported load of library code and still written his own functions to do the same thing...

that chap could be coming to a project near you soon...

[original PM]

If it was a wall of a type he hadn't built before, the former. But most walls are quite similar. Whereas you rarely write the exact same code over and over again, if you are it suggests you could've saved some time not coding in the first place.

Have you coded using modern tools? there are so many plug ins and code re-uses that a huge chunk of the code written is the same code used again and again.

I agree this would be completely different if you are coding for obscure engineering projects

but not for standard noddy websites etc

[woohoo]

If it was a wall of a type he hadn't built before, the former. But most walls are quite similar. Whereas you rarely write the exact same code over and over again, if you are it suggests you could've saved some time not coding in the first place.

I think at some point you realise that using brick laying as analogy of software development doesn't work. Better to stick with talking about software development, but i think if we did that originalPM would show his ignorance.