Reply to: Joining IPSE

[SlipTheJab]

Don't forget if you are a well respected, highly knowledgeable contractor, revered by your clients and peers alike you can make quite a lot of it back through the referral scheme as well!

Quite!

[mudskipper]

Wow one case. At the moment they are failing in everything. I see them as a trade union and some of their members on here like their pushers, bullying those who don't want to belong to this club of . I hate trade unions. I tried one year of membership and it's complete rubbish

Jury cover, sickness cover all jokes, a couple of days money if you're out for 6 months it's not going to make any difference.

cashback website? Quidco and Topcashback have way better deals and more

Have you considered giving shares to your spouse? If so, you've benefited from that one case. I suspect you've also benefited from the case law that has been established round IR35.

I don't know what the "everything" they're failing in at the moment is. Are you still able to claim T&S if you're outside IR35? Are they currently arguing against the proposed public sector changes?

Stating the benefits that IPSE membership offers, and/or the wins they have made isn't bullying. If you don't want to join, then don't. The good news is that you'll still continue to benefit from any campaign "wins", even if you're not covered for your jury service

[TheFaQQer]

Wow one case.

Yep - £1 million plus. It costs a lot of money to go to the highest court in the land, even if you do win at every stage of the process. No commercial organisation will do that for one of their customers, yet IPSE has done so for a member and would fight a similar case again and again.

Jury cover, sickness cover all jokes, a couple of days money if you're out for 6 months it's not going to make any difference.

If you are called up on jury duty, then the IPSE policy will pay up to £500 per day to reduce (or totally cover) the loss to your business. If you don't see that as a benefit, then maybe a trip to Specsavers is in order

[malvolio]

Looks like you've made your mind up and there is no convincing you otherwise so fair enough.

Indeed. Schiller got it spot on...

[northernladuk]

Wow one case. At the moment they are failing in everything. I see them as a trade union and some of their members on here like their pushers, bullying those who don't want to belong to this club of . I hate trade unions. I tried one year of membership and it's complete rubbish

Jury cover, sickness cover all jokes, a couple of days money if you're out for 6 months it's not going to make any difference.

cashback website? Quidco and Topcashback have way better deals and more

Looks like you've made your mind up and there is no convincing you otherwise so fair enough.

[Eirikur]

And as far as I can remember, Qdos have never spent over £1 million taking a case to the House of Lords to set a legal precedent that benefits many contractors.

Wow one case. At the moment they are failing in everything. I see them as a trade union and some of their members on here like their pushers, bullying those who don't want to belong to this club of . I hate trade unions. I tried one year of membership and it's complete rubbish

Jury cover, sickness cover all jokes, a couple of days money if you're out for 6 months it's not going to make any difference.

cashback website? Quidco and Topcashback have way better deals and more

[northernladuk]

Don't forget if you are a well respected, highly knowledgeable contractor, revered by your clients and peers alike you can make quite a lot of it back through the referral scheme as well!

[Chuck]

I claimed on the PCG Jury Service cover. I forget the exact figures, but it's not far off to say that it covered 10 years of PCG membership.

[SlipTheJab]

+1 IPSE membership is a no brainer.

[northernladuk]

I became a member a year ago now canceling my membership as it doesn't seem to provide any benefits. Just have all my stuff with QDOS which is enough.

I'm not so sure about that. You should be able to make your membership back and more from the Advantages programme for a start. There is also the all the 'possible' benefits, some of which cover very real a possible scenarios. Look at the business interruption option. 2K if an agent welches on your contract (T&C's apply). So if you sign, they pull it as we see on here very regularly you can claim up to 2k dependant on the notice period they didn't invoke. If you claim it once every 4 years your membership is paid for. Seems good odds to me that.

It's like many things, it's expensive when you don't use it. A real benefit if you unfortunately do. I've paid for top Green Flag break down and haven't claimed on it for like 15 years. Needed it last Wednesday and all that money was worth it to get me home.

Just because you haven't used the benefits it doesn't mean they aren't there. Each to their own.

[The Only Way Is Keynsham]

You would say that. You have to say that. But lets not pretend the majority of members buy into IPSE for IR35 legal protection. IPSE membership base would no doubt weaken considerably the same day IR35 is scrapped.

Not at all. I get peace of mind from knowing that as soon as I get any kind of tax enquiry I can get IPSE to help me out.

Of course you need the IPSE Plus subscription but it's well worth it.

[TheFaQQer]

I became a member a year ago now canceling my membership as it doesn't seem to provide any benefits. Just have all my stuff with QDOS which is enough.

I guess that it depends on what you see as a benefit and what you don't - if you don't need the multitude of things that IPSE offers (or don't think you do!) then you may well be better off financially elsewhere.

As a starter, the costs of three Qdos products that are included in IPSE Plus membership comes to £481 (tax investigation insurance, jury duty cover, sickness cover). From what I can see they don't provide cover if the agency goes bust, or if the client does, or if the contract isn't as described - all included in your IPSE Plus membership.

Using IPSE Advantages to get discounts at PC World pays more than my membership fee every year, and then some. IPSE Futures critical illness cover is significantly cheaper for me than anywhere else. Plus even if you don't do anything else, someone gets £5k from IPSE if you die while you're an IPSE Plus member.

And as far as I can remember, Qdos have never spent over £1 million taking a case to the House of Lords to set a legal precedent that benefits many contractors.

I struggle to see where you can get a similar package for less money, to be honest. But if you have suggestions on what benefits IPSE should be providing, then make suggestions for what you would like to see your membership organisation provide.

[scooterscot]

I became a member a year ago now canceling my membership as it doesn't seem to provide any benefits. .

Same reason I left.

[Eirikur]

I became a member a year ago now canceling my membership as it doesn't seem to provide any benefits. Just have all my stuff with QDOS which is enough.

[missinggreenfields]

But lets not pretend the majority of members buy into IPSE for IR35 legal protection.

You're right. That's what malvolio posted as well.