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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
    usually there are warning signs and time to adjust, whereas stocks can plunge in 24 hours.
    I can't think of any recent crashes where that was applicable, given the relative liquidity of the assets being compared (stocks versus housing). The housing market can freeze on sentiment alone, and property is an illiquid asset (one reason that commercial property funds were suspended recently). Anything can be liquidated quickly, if the price is realistic, but prices move dramatically in an illiquid market for the same reason. Property values are determined at the margins, particularly when supply is low.

    However, I suspect that a more likely outcome from Brexit, when the dust settles, is further gains, inspired by cheap money, and yet another deferred pop of the asset bubble.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    There is no more downside for the stock market because global governments cannot allow them to fall, else the Ponzi financial system will unwind and collapse.
    Yeah keep buying those shares, you can't possibly lose

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
    It's no surprise that the stock market is going mad at the mo. QE caused by Brexit has reduced bond yields so money has flowed into stocks instead. Also commodities are on the up after a hiatus and FTSE 100 companies are more exposed to these. There's no other place to stick your money if you want a return.
    Like you I'm more in tune with property, though. I think its to do with being risk averse - property can fall hugely but usually there are warning signs and time to adjust, whereas stocks can plunge in 24 hours.
    As can property - although you need to go back to Black Wednesday and the 15% interest rates to see an example of it....

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  • CretinWatcher
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    Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    Funny that, I read an article on MarketWatch yesterday that said that automated systems were doing just that. I mean buying on every dip, not improving their 'lives'

    I've been out of the stock market way too long now. I chose property instead, which is somewhat of a hater's game now, but the time will come when stock market gains have been pumped up ripe for the rape from the governments that pumped them up in the first place.

    Many years from authors will write books on how global governments planned this huge transfer of wealth from loose monetary policy to the financial system and assets and then pillaged it all to cover their own debts and leave investors/risk-takers in the mire.

    "May you live in interesting times". Or so goes the Chinese curse.

    It's no surprise that the stock market is going mad at the mo. QE caused by Brexit has reduced bond yields so money has flowed into stocks instead. Also commodities are on the up after a hiatus and FTSE 100 companies are more exposed to these. There's no other place to stick your money if you want a return.
    Like you I'm more in tune with property, though. I think its to do with being risk averse - property can fall hugely but usually there are warning signs and time to adjust, whereas stocks can plunge in 24 hours.

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  • ChimpMaster
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Sounds like, if they only ever go up, you should be buying on the dips, and improving your life....
    Funny that, I read an article on MarketWatch yesterday that said that automated systems were doing just that. I mean buying on every dip, not improving their 'lives'

    I've been out of the stock market way too long now. I chose property instead, which is somewhat of a hater's game now, but the time will come when stock market gains have been pumped up ripe for the rape from the governments that pumped them up in the first place.

    Many years from authors will write books on how global governments planned this huge transfer of wealth from loose monetary policy to the financial system and assets and then pillaged it all to cover their own debts and leave investors/risk-takers in the mire.

    "May you live in interesting times". Or so goes the Chinese curse.

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    Stock markets globally are now a fixed game. They go up on good news, they go up on bad news. There is no more downside for the stock market because global governments cannot allow them to fall, else the Ponzi financial system will unwind and collapse.

    It's sickening to think that economic policy is aimed at propping up the markets, not at improving people's lives.
    Sounds like, if they only ever go up, you should be buying on the dips, and improving your life....

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    Stock markets globally are now a fixed game. They go up on good news, they go up on bad news. There is no more downside for the stock market because global governments cannot allow them to fall, else the Ponzi financial system will unwind and collapse.

    It's sickening to think that economic policy is aimed at propping up the markets, not at improving people's lives.
    You need to go to one of the gold threads on the HTC forum.

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by sirja View Post
    I would be careful quoting the stock market. A nasty down turn is just around the corner..
    And why would that happen?

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  • ChimpMaster
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    Originally posted by sirja View Post
    I would be careful quoting the stock market. A nasty down turn is just around the corner..
    Stock markets globally are now a fixed game. They go up on good news, they go up on bad news. There is no more downside for the stock market because global governments cannot allow them to fall, else the Ponzi financial system will unwind and collapse.

    It's sickening to think that economic policy is aimed at propping up the markets, not at improving people's lives.

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  • sirja
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    Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    Stock market shoots up again.
    I would be careful quoting the stock market. A nasty down turn is just around the corner..

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  • CretinWatcher
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    Originally posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    Stock market shoots up again.
    It's because the economic fundamentals are sound, obviously.

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  • ChimpMaster
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    Stock market shoots up again.

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  • CretinWatcher
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    Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    Good news for index linked saving certs.
    Amazing isn't it how fast Brexit is leading us to the sunlit uplands?

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  • The_Equalizer
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    Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
    Quite, after only a month or two as well.
    And we can expect more good news as time goes on, as the pound falls further and prices rise correspondingly
    Let us move forward as one !
    Good news for index linked saving certs.

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  • CretinWatcher
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Producer Price Inflation up to 3.3%

    All that money printing to stoke price inflation and all it took was pretending to leave the EU to fix the deflationary economy.
    Quite, after only a month or two as well.
    And we can expect more good news as time goes on, as the pound falls further and prices rise correspondingly
    Let us move forward as one !

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