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Previously on "This isn't quite right ..."

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    The biggest disgrace is to let those who live outside the UK vote in official elections or referendums.
    Perhaps instead of disenfranchising after fifteen years, it should just be loss of citizenship.

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  • Kraut
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    A non UK national shouldn't be allowed to vote for the leader of a UK party. Agreed. Although we vote for parties, not presidents so who leads is not relevant.
    Well then what does it matter who gets to vote? Can as well flip a coin by that logic.

    Of course the person matters, and whoever leads the party is in fact the face of the party. That's why election failure was attributed to Miliband and Corbyn is considered "unelectable". In theory it shouldn't be about the person, but it very much is.
    Hence, the Tories should really call for a snap election, in my opinion. But that's not going to happen, because as you rightly said, we vote for parties not people here, and therefore there's no requirement to seek a renewed mandate. So they're not going to take chances.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    The biggest disgrace is to let those who live outside the UK vote in official elections or referendums.
    Why?

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
    A non UK national shouldn't be allowed to vote for the leader of a UK party. Agreed. Although we vote for parties, not presidents so who leads is not relevant.
    Oh really, so you don't have problem with "unelected" EU president then???

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  • BrilloPad
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    The biggest disgrace is to let those who live outside the UK vote in official elections or referendums.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Should they be allowed to vote on who should be the MP selected by their local party?

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
    So a friend of mine who happens to be of German origin ,settled here for more than 20 years, was denied the right to vote in the referendum. Correctly IMO.
    But as he happens to be a member of the Tory party, he will get to choose the unelected leader who will govern us for the next 4 crucial years. A period of time in which that leader, acting on behalf of a party which has made a U turn on fiscal probity, the basis of which many voted for them, could wreck the country permanently.
    A non UK national shouldn't be allowed to vote for the leader of a UK party. Agreed. Although we vote for parties, not presidents so who leads is not relevant.

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    What about the Leader of the Opposition?

    Can anyone name any democratic countries where foreigners cannot join political parties and have a say in their running, deciding policies etc.?
    What opposition are you referring to? Can't see any.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Quite agree. Any new PM should be elected by MPs who have themselves been elected by voters.
    What about the Leader of the Opposition?

    Can anyone name any democratic countries where foreigners cannot join political parties and have a say in their running, deciding policies etc.?

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  • xoggoth
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    Quite agree. Any new PM should be elected by MPs who have themselves been elected by voters.

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  • barrydidit
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    Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
    a friend of mine
    Yeah, there's something not quite right about that scenario

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  • CretinWatcher
    started a topic This isn't quite right ...

    This isn't quite right ...

    So a friend of mine who happens to be of German origin ,settled here for more than 20 years, was denied the right to vote in the referendum. Correctly IMO.
    But as he happens to be a member of the Tory party, he will get to choose the unelected leader who will govern us for the next 4 crucial years. A period of time in which that leader, acting on behalf of a party which has made a U turn on fiscal probity, the basis of which many voted for them, could wreck the country permanently.

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