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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    If it's too negative you will get banned...
    I'm horrified.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    I'm detecting some negative energy here.
    If it's too negative you will get banned...

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Yes, by your lies that I then checked. And everything time I've come back with evidence you have chosen to attack me, not the evidence. When I've asked you to back your claims up, you've chosen to ignore it or attack my posts.
    You and your lying, your deliberate dissemination of false information, has wasted my time. Myself (and hopefully a few others on here) will know not to believe you in future, until you can prove yourself and can start acting honestly.
    I'm detecting some negative energy here.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    I wasted your time?
    Yes, by your lies that I then checked. And everything time I've come back with evidence you have chosen to attack me, not the evidence. When I've asked you to back your claims up, you've chosen to ignore it or attack my posts.
    You and your lying, your deliberate dissemination of false information, has wasted my time. Myself (and hopefully a few others on here) will know not to believe you in future, until you can prove yourself and can start acting honestly.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    So, you're not a conspiracy theorist, but you quote "Guns Save Lives" and "Reason.com" as your sources, even though their headlines are fabricated, as was proven by linking to where they got the data?

    You've wasted my time proving you wrong. Are you smart enough to be a contractor, I doubt it.
    I wasted your time?

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    That is true, but you missed the important first bit of the article.

    The Swiss merely came up with their own take on it, to sell to tourists some 50 years after the Germans started really working with them. The quote from the Harry Lime character clearly indicates that he (and by extension, Graham Greene) considered Switzerland to be the home of the cuckoo clock. And it isn't.
    So what you're admitting to is, that not only did the Swiss fence Nazi gold, they also started fencing their cuckoo clocks as well.

    Nasty nasty feckers these Swiss.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    I'm sorry but I kind of try and stay away from conspiracy theory fruit loops on the internet, there are too many of you and my time is limited.
    So, you're not a conspiracy theorist, but you quote "Guns Save Lives" and "Reason.com" as your sources, even though their headlines are fabricated, as was proven by linking to where they got the data?

    You've wasted my time proving you wrong. Are you smart enough to be a contractor, I doubt it.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    So, the headline in Guns Saves Lives is fictitious, i.e. false, a lie and the kind of thing Reason.com (and other Koch sponsored propaganda outlets like to spew to the unintelligent)
    I'm sorry but I kind of try and stay away from conspiracy theory fruit loops on the internet, there are too many of you and my time is limited.

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  • WTFH
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    #copslivesmatter

    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    But you still can't refute facts. Let's face it, your source has lied to you and you were taken in by that lie.
    So, I've tracked down the source...
    http://gunssavelives.net/blog/fbi-re...mass-shooting/

    ...and the (completely unbiased) "Guns Save Lives" website claim that only 30 people a year die in mass shootings.
    Their claim on the number of lightning strikes is not to the NOAA, but to Wikipedia. Um, why not use the actual source? Oh yes, because it disagrees with what you say.
    Then there's the link to the FBI report:
    https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/201...-2000-and-2013
    That report is about Active Shooter Incidents, not "mass shootings" or "mass killings". Here is how the FBI define active shooter incidents in their report:
    Active shooter is a term used by law enforcement to describe a situation in which a shooting is in progress and an aspect of the crime may affect the protocols used in responding to and reacting at the scene of the incident. Unlike a defined crime, such as a murder or mass killing, the active aspect inherently implies that both law enforcement personnel and citizens have the potential to affect the outcome of the event based upon their responses.
    And in case that wasn't clear enough:
    This is not a study of mass killings or mass shootings, but rather a study of a specific type of shooting situation law enforcement and the public may face. Incidents identified in this study do not encompass all gun-related situations; therefore caution should be taken when using this information without placing it in context. Specifically, shootings that resulted from gang or drug violence—pervasive, long-tracked, criminal acts that could also affect the public— were not included in this study. In addition, other gun-related shootings were not included when those incidents appeared generally not to have put others in peril (e.g., the accidental discharge of a rearm in a school building or a person who chose to publicly commit suicide in a parking lot). The study does not encompass all mass killings or shootings in public places and therefore is limited in its scope.

    So, the headline in Guns Saves Lives is fictitious, i.e. false, a lie and the kind of thing Reason.com (and other Koch sponsored propaganda outlets like to spew to the unintelligent)

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    ...The "Chalet" style originated at the end of the 19th century in Switzerland...
    That is true, but you missed the important first bit of the article.

    The Black Forest region of southern Germany is where cuckoo clocks - mostly depicting a hunting scene - have their real nest.
    The Swiss merely came up with their own take on it, to sell to tourists some 50 years after the Germans started really working with them. The quote from the Harry Lime character clearly indicates that he (and by extension, Graham Greene) considered Switzerland to be the home of the cuckoo clock. And it isn't.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    I can end sentences in block CAPITALS.
    But you still can't refute facts. Let's face it, your source has lied to you and you were taken in by that lie.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Proves your claims are false if that's the best you can manage to refute FACTS.
    I can end sentences in block CAPITALS.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Yes, I have more than one friend in a gun lobby, in fact I'm going to call them now and have a little gun lobby chit chat.
    Proves your claims are false if that's the best you can manage to refute FACTS.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    So, according to your friends at the gun lobby, nobody died in 2015/2016 in mass shootings.

    E.g. was the massacre in Orlando a mass shooting or not? If it was, then there should be at least 450 people struck by lightning according to your statistics. But there are under 100, so your stats are FALSE. Prove me wrong.

    Tell me how is it that you think murder is something to be laughed at, are you sick or just stupid?
    Yes, I have more than one friend in a gun lobby, in fact I'm going to call them now and have a little gun lobby chit chat.

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  • WTFH
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    #copslivesmatter

    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    I stand by my figures, but then again there are different ways to look at this...

    Choose Your Own Mass Shooting Statistics - Hit & Run : Reason.com

    What I do find amusing at is your volte face from demanding credible sources from me over Islamic terrorism statistics to you quoting crime definitions and data from a subreddit forum.
    So, according to your friends at the gun lobby, nobody died in 2015/2016 in mass shootings.

    E.g. was the massacre in Orlando a mass shooting or not? If it was, then there should be at least 450 people struck by lightning according to your statistics. But there are under 100, so your stats are FALSE. Prove me wrong.

    Tell me how is it that you think murder is something to be laughed at, are you sick or just stupid?

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