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  • greenlake
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    Jennifer Tilly is an accomplished poker player. No one is looking at her face....

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  • northernladuk
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    This one always makes me laugh, and it's double good cause it's a 'sweat with' episode so you can't see the other guys hand.

    Watch the sigh at about 1:38 and then raise on the river. He might as well stick his cards on his forehead he advertised it so badly...



    You would be surprised how often this happens on a table of occasional players/tourists. It still happens right up the tree as well but I'd be a little more wary acting purely on that against regulars.

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  • MyUserName
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    If you know the people you know mostly when they are lying.

    This is the slight difference in the game. If you are playing for a laugh with some mates then trying to read them might be more effective. However, people often play more randomly as some of them have no idea what they are doing and some just do not care as they are only playing for a laugh (nothing wrong with that, of course).

    When you are playing for something you really do not want to lose then things change a little. Reading a stranger who is deliberately trying to mislead you whislt also trying to consistantly mislead others is so close to impossible to do consistantly you are far better off reading the cards.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    It's also hlthe bit you can act on as well so it's a bit if a minefield. There is the classic sigh before vetting or reraising on the river the newbies do thinking it works but apart from that I rarely use body language reads.

    I was in Vegas once and had been out till 6 that morning and only had 5 hours sleep due to oxygenin the air-con. Playing poker and I put a bet in and I'm shaking like a dog crapping glass, red eyes, look knackered. Guy folds and tells me I must have had a good hand cause I'm shaking. Am like WTF. I've been shaking for the last hour and look like crap. Nice read bro :
    my experience was normally in the pub after hours for matchsticks, pints or coppers.

    wouldn't trust myself in Vegas.

    If you know the people you know mostly when they are lying.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    the body language is the bit many people have difficulty concealing.
    It's also hlthe bit you can act on as well so it's a bit if a minefield. There is the classic sigh before vetting or reraising on the river the newbies do thinking it works but apart from that I rarely use body language reads.

    I was in Vegas once and had been out till 6 that morning and only had 5 hours sleep due to oxygenin the air-con. Playing poker and I put a bet in and I'm shaking like a dog crapping glass, red eyes, look knackered. Guy folds and tells me I must have had a good hand cause I'm shaking. Am like WTF. I've been shaking for the last hour and look like crap. Nice read bro :

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
    The idea of reading body language, facial expressions being a major part of poker seems to be perpetated by the film industry. Most of the time it involves working out how people are betting in relation to the cards they might have.

    If you are playing Texas and people make their bets on the flop and then change drastically on the turn then you need to look at the cards and work out the odds that they had a hand they would not put money on at first which has suddenly changed to a strong hand with this extra card. Sometimes it makes sense sometimes there is no way the card could have changed they hand that much. Then you need to think about the odds that they actually have the cards they are pretending to have. If there were 2 kings down and nothing else and then another king comes out they might throw money down to give the impression they have the fourth king ... but if the fourth king is in your hand then you can be pretty sure they are bluffing!

    In my (admittedly limited) experience body language is only a small part of things.

    the body language is the bit many people have difficulty concealing.

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  • MrMarkyMark
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    What about Suity's pokerface?
    Looks more like he has snorted a big bump of cosmic moon dust to me

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  • MyUserName
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    The idea of reading body language, facial expressions being a major part of poker seems to be perpetated by the film industry. Most of the time it involves working out how people are betting in relation to the cards they might have.

    If you are playing Texas and people make their bets on the flop and then change drastically on the turn then you need to look at the cards and work out the odds that they had a hand they would not put money on at first which has suddenly changed to a strong hand with this extra card. Sometimes it makes sense sometimes there is no way the card could have changed they hand that much. Then you need to think about the odds that they actually have the cards they are pretending to have. If there were 2 kings down and nothing else and then another king comes out they might throw money down to give the impression they have the fourth king ... but if the fourth king is in your hand then you can be pretty sure they are bluffing!

    In my (admittedly limited) experience body language is only a small part of things.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    When the player opposite you who's been jacking all game, all of a sudden jumps up, whoops and high fives the entire room before sitting down and saying 'I'm In', gives a slight indication they may have a better hand than usual.
    or they have a good bluff.

    Done that a few times, walked away with a few quid.

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    Link isn't working for me. Just a blank page. Shame as I wanted to read this. I don't see how on earth facial recognition can help when poker is, to no small degree, based on the maths and statistics of the cards. You can be the best play on earth but when someone smacks you on the river with a 1% outter your face has f all to do with it.

    And poker/non poker player. What's the classification? I can't read it but does it define what they class a poker player as?

    Sounds like a load of tosh to me so can't wait to read the article.
    When the player opposite you who's been jacking all game, all of a sudden jumps up, whoops and high fives the entire room before sitting down and saying 'I'm In', gives a slight indication they may have a better hand than usual.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    HTH
    Nice ty.. Interesting.

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  • vetran
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    Don't think they will mind us copying its a promo article anyway

    Can technology predict who will win a poker tournament?
    May 9, 2016
    Not everybody can be a Professional Poker player. You need to be calm, cool and collected. Strong emotional stability, discipline, and an aggressive yet patient ambitious nature are critical. If you can score a person on each of these traits, would you be able to predict if he is capable of winning a poker tournament? Probably, but how can this be done?

    According to Social and Life Science research personalities are affected by genes. Facial features reflect our DNA, therefore facial analysis may be the key to analyzing a person’s personality.

    If we go back to the professional poker player, when we analyze the faces of leading poker players, we find commonality in their facial features. Even if we can’t yet correlate each of these common features to various personality traits, we can with a high level of accuracy detect the ever powerful “Poker Face.”

    Faception, a 500 startups company, can do this and more. To qualify for this batch, we were challenged by the 500 Startups team, with a blind test of 27 quality facial images of poker and non poker players and were able to accurately classify 25 of them (93% accuracy).

    On March 14, YouStake, another 500 Startups company hosted a poker tournament at the SF 500 office. We took pictures of 50 participants and analyzed them using our machine learning technology. We than ranked them according to how they scored against matching the profile of a professional poker player. The results were sealed and to be revealed before the start of the final table. When the results were revealed, it turned out that our technology correctly picked 4 out of the remaining 7 players at the final table. Furthermore, 2 of the top 3 were winners. (Top pros Jamie Gold and Anthony Zinno were excluded).




    For complete coverage of the Poker tournament check out https://www.youstake.com/youstake-poker-night-2016/

    Everyone reading this blog is probably thinking, how can this technology can be used in my industry? Indeed, the opportunities are seemingly endless.

    Learn more about what we are up to and how we plan to revolutionize public safety, communications, decision-making and experiences. We’ll be presenting at 500 Startups Batch 16 Demo Day.
    HTH

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  • northernladuk
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    Link isn't working for me. Just a blank page. Shame as I wanted to read this. I don't see how on earth facial recognition can help when poker is, to no small degree, based on the maths and statistics of the cards. You can be the best play on earth but when someone smacks you on the river with a 1% outter your face has f all to do with it.

    And poker/non poker player. What's the classification? I can't read it but does it define what they class a poker player as?

    Sounds like a load of tosh to me so can't wait to read the article.
    Last edited by northernladuk; 24 May 2016, 17:29.

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    What about Suity's pokerface?


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  • vetran
    started a topic Are you a player?

    Are you a player?

    FACEPTION | Facial Personality Profiling

    Faception, a 500 startups company, can do this and more. To qualify for this batch, we were challenged by the 500 Startups team, with a blind test of 27 quality facial images of poker and non poker players and were able to accurately classify 25 of them (93% accuracy).
    credible?

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