Reply to: EU Referendum: a Google-assisted Poll

[d000hg]

I don't think not wanting to stick your views in everyone else's face implies one is timid.

[OwlHoot]

The "in" voters I've met apart from a couple who are politically active are very quiet about their views. I had to drag it out of them.

Yes, they sound like poor timid souls, who wouldn't say boo to a goose, and who crave safety in numbers.

The sort who if they'd been on the Titanic would have stayed inside in the warm and ended up with their bones littering the bottom of the Atlantic ..

[jamesbrown]

A good argument, that the EU helps prevent conflict

...and this is how the Brexiteers will start a conflict once we leave the EU

ww.express.co.uk/news/uk/667933/Send-British-Army-to-Ireland-before-Brexit-time-bomb-warn-UKIP-David-McNarry

I rest my case

The vast majority of people are either soft Bremainers or soft Brexiters, not at all shouty. What you see in online fora, and the national press, is the opposite of that.

[BlasterBates]

Perception bias. As someone on the other side, I perceive the Bremainers to be very shouty indeed. FFS, WWIII You can't get much more shouty than that. It's backfiring though

A good argument, that the EU helps prevent conflict

...and this is how the Brexiteers will start a conflict once we leave the EU

ww.express.co.uk/news/uk/667933/Send-British-Army-to-Ireland-before-Brexit-time-bomb-warn-UKIP-David-McNarry

I rest my case

[jamesbrown]

personal insults.

Also, anecdotally, witness the majority of Bremainers on CUK. Ad hominems abound.

[jamesbrown]

Brexiteers are very "shouty". You see the difference when Obama points out politely that the UK will stand at the back of the queue, Boris Johnson could have politely replied about how the UK might not need a quick deal but he didn't he replies by "frothing at the mouth" and throwing personal insults.

Perception bias. As someone on the other side, I perceive the Bremainers to be very shouty indeed. FFS, WWIII You can't get much more shouty than that. It's backfiring though

[BlasterBates]

Brexiteers are very "shouty". You see the difference when Obama points out politely that the UK will stand at the back of the queue, Boris Johnson could have politely replied about how the UK might not need a quick deal but he didn't he replies by "frothing at the mouth" and throwing personal insults.

[sasguru]

It doesn't really matter whether what she says is correctly reported.

Really?
So you're suggesting you can make up anything up about anybody?
Did you know Nigel Frogface said yesterday that he he is now all for Remain?
The irony (which is probably lost to you) is that the made-up comment ascribed to her is spot on. You're the example.

[d000hg]

Leave campaigners are simply more vociferous. We saw this in Scotland - generally those advocating change are fighting for it as an evangelical minority while the bulk of people like things how they are - or are too apathetic to care enough to shout about it.

[DodgyAgent]

Clearly not bright enough to know when you are being manipulated, though.


Honestly don't you find it embarassing?

It doesn't really matter whether what she says is correctly reported but it acts as a metaphor of how people with no democratic accountability but with lots of power are corrupted.

[sasguru]

I am happy with that. it does however seem that I am bright enough to understand how human nature works and bright enough to understand a bit about history and I am also bright enough to be interested in history. If that is what thick people do and think then that will do me.

Clearly not bright enough to know when you are being manipulated, though.


Honestly don't you find it embarassing?

[sasguru]

But the really interesting thing about the above 'meme' is the fact that she actually never said that, it was in fact the Daily Mail who said it and some Project FUD Brexiter picked up on it, which shows that she is correct

Looks like DA is part of the sheep who are being manipulated, without knowing it .

[DodgyAgent]

No, but you're certainly a thicko.

I am happy with that. it does however seem that I am bright enough to understand how human nature works and bright enough to understand a bit about history and I am also bright enough to be interested in history. If that is what thick people do and think then that will do me.

[darmstadt]

It is so reassuring to know that clever people like this know what is best for us all!

Apart from the fact that she is not the European Commission Vice President and hasn't been since 2014 and then she was only Vice-President and Commissioner responsible for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship. As has been pointed out elsewhere is that possibly people don't understand the issues and from the same speech:

‘You are on the verge of having (to take) maybe a national decision?’ she said.‘Do the people who are asked to vote know what they are going to vote about?’

‘The fact is that very often, I see a completely distorted truth being presented and then how do you want people to take an informed decision? They simply cannot.’

But the really interesting thing about the above 'meme' is the fact that she actually never said that, it was in fact the Daily Mail who said it and some Project FUD Brexiter picked up on it, which shows that she is correct

[sasguru]

Are you one of the sheep?

The Sheep in Animal Farm

No, but you're certainly a thicko.