Reply to: Do people use age as a yardstick?

[datestamp]

Obviously my career now is in Siebel.

Date of career start: 1999. No problem.

Very good expat, and probably a good way to play the game. But the agents will start to get clever and will ask "how many incarnations of the CUK forum can you remember?", and you will suddenly fall into their clever trap.

[Xenophon]

Ovbiously not enough. I still cant understand this threaded stuff. Maybe i'm just not part of the cool gang.

Allow me to enlighten you. Now search on his posts and be amazed at all that he has achieved.

[Generalist]

Do people use age as a yardstick?

Only age 36

[tim123]

Re: age discrimination in IT:

So, up to about 30 you're too young. After 40, too old. So you have about 10 years of being the ideal age. Anyone here been for hair implants, cosmetic enhancements then?

Just lie on your CV. Miss off all the dates of school/uni and leave off the first 10 years of your career - do you use any of those skills anymore? (does anyone want a Coral 66 programmer?)

What are they going to do when they find out?

They can't turn around and say "if we'd known, we wouldn't have employed you" as they would be admitting to the discrimination.

And legally, you haven't commited a fraudulent act if you could have obtained the same result by being honest. If someone offers you a job on the basis of half your skills, they could hardly argue that they wouldn't have offered it on the basis of all of them. As long as you don't miss them off to hide something nergative (other than your age!) you'll be OK.

IME ageism in contractor recruitment starts/ends at the CV filtering part. Once you get in front of the interviewer your real age is unimportant, the age that you act may not be.

tim

[tim123]

Third!! When did this happen? What was before ezboard? I've been here long enough to remember both pF (sic) and Janek.

I though it was the fourth!

I'm sure that there was something before ezboard, it was all so long ago I can't remenber. And then there was the incident where somebody trashed the database, we all had to create out accounts again and all our counters went down to zero or something like that.

tim

[bobhope]

Perfect age for IT ppl

Re: age discrimination in IT:

So, up to about 30 you're too young. After 40, too old. So you have about 10 years of being the ideal age. Anyone here been for hair implants, cosmetic enhancements then?

[bobhope]

Explanation of the Threaded Joke.

Some of us have been on this board too long bearing in mind this is the third incarnation of the forum.

Wayyyyyyyy too long.

Third!! When did this happen? What was before ezboard? I've been here long enough to remember both pF (sic) and Janek.

[MarillionFan]

Explanation of the Threaded Joke.

Some of us have been on this board too long bearing in mind this is the third incarnation of the forum.

Wayyyyyyyy too long.

[expat]

I noticed more aganecies on Jobserve want to know what they call the 'date of your career start'... rather than age. Says it all really.

More meaningless, expensive legislation with no beneficial effect whatsoever.

Lemme see, I first worked in 1968, but that was in school holidays. I started the real working life in 1973, started programming in 1975, contracting in 1978, client/server in 1994, and siebel in 1999.

Obviously my career now is in Siebel.

Date of career start: 1999. No problem.

[TheMonkey]

How many contracts have you been to where people are judging you by your age rather than your work?

This happened at my last place as really arsed me off. I used to get the "i dont expect you to understand" or "your only a lad so".

Now I'm only 23 and when people find out you are a contractor they are either a) happy for you or b) annoyed that they didnt think of it.

Lately I'm finding more b than a. Anyone here faced people thinking they were rubbish becuase of thier age.

I've had a couple recently.

I never quote my age anywhere. There is no reason to do so. I look a lot older than I am though thanks to clubbing too much, alcohol and having two kids.

[AtW]

Threaded is a higher lifeform - that's all you need to know. When you address him make sure you say Sire.

[xoggoth]

Yeh. I think its the incontinence that does it.

[hattra]

Ovbiously not enough. I still cant understand this threaded stuff. Maybe i'm just not part of the cool gang.

Worry not, young Socko - Threaded is member of our august body, who allegedly ate all the pies, and owns a working time machine (according to him) - his name is often taken in vain

[AtW]

The intent is the same - courts in this country don't just always follow letter of the law.

[Sockpuppet]

Well, what kind of work experience can one have at 23? Threaded excluded obviously.

Ovbiously not enough. I still cant understand this threaded stuff. Maybe i'm just not part of the cool gang.