Reply to: Most Germans oppose 'Brexit'

[vetran]

Counterpoint... it seems we're not very good at making decisions.

yeah we should have gotten rid of the northern millstone.

We shouldn't of joined the Common Market without locking it down to just that without a referendum.

We should of shot a few Bankers 'pour encourager les Autres'.

etc.

[DodgyAgent]

Right now I'd appreciate a politician that's admits when they're wrong. 'Look I've made a mistake'. I'd have buckets of respect for a leader that said as much. We all make mistakes and learn from them. Like the recent Cameron tax fiasco, who played the public for a week like they were idiots.

here you go

[scooterscot]

That's a problem the world over though right now. Has there ever been a less inspiring bunch of leaders? Does anyone stand for, or against, anything any more?

I completely agree that our politicians are dreadful. But then, so are everyone else's.

Right now I'd appreciate a politician that's admits when they're wrong. 'Look I've made a mistake'. I'd have buckets of respect for a leader that said as much. We all make mistakes and learn from them. Like the recent Cameron tax fiasco, who played the public for a week like they were idiots.

[Chuck]

Counterpoint... it seems we're not very good at making decisions.

That's a problem the world over though right now. Has there ever been a less inspiring bunch of leaders? Does anyone stand for, or against, anything any more?

I completely agree that our politicians are dreadful. But then, so are everyone else's.

[BrilloPad]

Counterpoint... it seems we're not very good at making decisions.

Counterpoint. It seems the Germans are not good at electing leaders. Hitler and Merkel.

[scooterscot]

The point is we made our own decisions.

Counterpoint... it seems we're not very good at making decisions.

In any case, how is it the French adapt new EU laws to suit their economy, the Italians just ignore it altogether until the EU applies something that fits for them, and the UK moan 'it's sooooo unfair!' without even challenging it.

The bottom line is the UK has never tried to be part of the EU. We've generally ignored it rather than be part of it. Then throw a hissy fit when it does not go our way. Reminds me of my screaming bambino.

[BrilloPad]

The point is we made our own decisions. If you want to go down the path of the EU making better decisions for our own good then bring it on.

+1000

No-one knows the economic outcome of BrExit. Do we make our own decisions or not?

[PurpleGorilla]

The point is we made our own decisions. If you want to go down the path of the EU making better decisions for France and Germany's own good then bring it on.

FTFY x2

[OwlHoot]

The point is we made our own decisions. If you want to go down the path of the EU making decisions for the good of other countries in the EU then bring it on.

FTFY

[d000hg]

Jeepers how expensive have stamps become in my absence. Thought they were about 30p?

I wonder if you tracked the price of a pint of milk against the price of a 1st class stamp through the decades, how well they'd correlate?

[DodgyAgent]

I strongly disagree. Most of the UK's problems, like the Greeks, are or our own making. Socialists blame everyone but themselves. Our debt grew when we bailed out the banks, the EU din't force us to. We broke our own capitalist rules. We spent disgusting amounts of money on illegal conflicts that were never a threat to realm. Did the EU ask us to? Er no. but the US did, so we played along. Did the EU ask us to devalue our currency? No. QE has done nothing to help us, we're still in the same pickle as 2008.

If you think about the money we spent in war, QE, failed banks being members of the EU is like shopping for penny sweets in comparison.

The point is we made our own decisions. If you want to go down the path of the EU making better decisions for our own good then bring it on.

[PurpleGorilla]

Jeepers how expensive have stamps become in my absence. Thought they were about 30p?

First class 64p, Second class 55p.

(but those prices are only for very small letters)

Stamps - Pay for Postage | Royal Mail Group Ltd

You've got to love privatisation!

[scooterscot]

You only need one stamp for the price of a pint of milk.

Jeepers how expensive have stamps become in my absence. Thought they were about 30p?

[d000hg]

I think postage stamps are supposed to be legal tender too. But good luck trying to pay for a pint of milk with a book of first class stamps.

You only need one stamp for the price of a pint of milk.

[BrilloPad]

Let's see how -ve interest rates work out for the Eurozone

If the Europeans were all in it together then the Germans would buy up all the Greek debt via the ECB. But why should they?

What I am amazed is how Merkel has convinced the hard working, proud German people that the Greek debt will eventually be repaid.

And why they keep electing idiots. But I suppose we do the same in the UK.