Reply to: Europe finished as an industrial and military region?

[LondonManc]

What's Balmoral got to do with the price of cheese? Your test harness is defective sir.

Funding from government test. Balmoral would get funding. IT leading the business yet again? YMMS

[unixman]

What's Balmoral got to do with the price of cheese? Your test harness is defective sir.

[LondonManc]

Test re-run:

Distance London to Ravenscraig 402 miles - abandoned
Distance London to Consett 282 miles - abandoned
Distance London to Port Talbot 172 miles - abandoned, but gov considering "measures"

rule works every time.

London to Balmoral - 507 miles

Unit testing has failed. Need to add extra parameters.

[unixman]

Test re-run:

Distance London to Ravenscraig 402 miles - abandoned
Distance London to Consett 282 miles - abandoned
Distance London to Port Talbot 172 miles - abandoned, but gov considering "measures"

rule works every time.

[unixman]

Bollox.

It is only the rich and powerful who get rescued.

Running unit test:

Distance from London to Port Talbot 172 miles.

Pass.

[AtW]

The business won't be viable because it's not possible to compete directly with Chinese dumping of product - they got no social security, workers are expendable, bulk buying of commodities etc.

[MrMarkyMark]

Once we have bailed them out an the business becomes viable, again, we can sell it back to TATA or<insert some other foreign conglomerate who doesn't give a sh1t about us here>.

Everyone's a winner

[SueEllen]

Government will help cover energy and pension costs to save British steel, Sajid Javid indicates

Great, so who will pay for it? UK taxpayers obviously, instead of higher tariffs on Chinese steel dumping

It's only fair.

We bailed out the bankers....

[AtW]

Government will help cover energy and pension costs to save British steel, Sajid Javid indicates

Great, so who will pay for it? UK taxpayers obviously, instead of higher tariffs on Chinese steel dumping

[meridian]

I very much doubt EU citizens will need visas, can you quote any pro-Brexit, minister on that, and even if you could can you name the 326 MP's that would support that ?

If there was a visa would they not be like Swiss visas that are automatically rubber stamped if you produce an EU passport.

On your first point, there's not much detail on the specifics of how it would work after a Brexit. Presumably, the U.K. would be free to set it's own rules.

On the second point, though, if those rules were to be like Switzerland's then it's a little bit more onerous than simply rubber-stamping, even for EU citizens:
https://www.ch.ch/en/working-switzerland-eu-efta/

[BrilloPad]

Algorithm for rescuing an industry:

Take out map and ruler
Measure distance from London
If near London, rescue

Bollox.

It is only the rich and powerful who get rescued.

[unixman]

Algorithm for rescuing an industry:

Take out map and ruler
Measure distance from London
If near London, rescue

[AtW]

Steel crisis: UK government plays down China tariff fears - BBC News

They are right - there is no point to worry about it because there won't be any UK Steel industry left by the time Gidiot is kicked out from Number 11...

[AtW]

I very much doubt EU citizens will need visas, can you quote any pro-Brexit, minister on that, and even if you could can you name the 326 MP's that would support that ?

They will need visa to work or live in UK, just same as it is with USA for UK visits.

[BlasterBates]

Newly arrived EU citizens will need a visa to work legally.

I very much doubt EU citizens will need visas, can you quote any pro-Brexit, minister on that, and even if you could can you name the 326 MP's that would support that ?

If there was a visa would they not be like Swiss visas that are automatically rubber stamped if you produce an EU passport.

Immigration and Brexit are completely separate issues. The vast majority of immigrants in the UK are non-EU, and the number of EU immigrants in the UK are more or less matched by emigrants to the EU. That was established after a parliamentary question.

There's no reason Britain couldn't be like Germany that has just as many EU-migrants but a very low number of non-EU migrants, and quite low net migration.

Immigration is a "fake issue" that has nothing to do with Brexit but is simply used as a populist argument. If you stopped non-EU immigration you would have a very stable population.