Reply to: Brains / IQ and wealth

[sasguru]

How could you ever recognise happiness without ever experiencing sadness?

People who are depressed are often very intelligent, they have a stronger real world view. And the world is an awful place right now. If anything they are more rational than most.

Grey Munich weather and cramped one-bed flat getting you down, eh?
Don't worry, something will turn up!

[scooterscot]

It's a state. Like time it doesn't really exist continuously.

How could you ever recognise happiness without ever experiencing sadness?

People who are depressed are often very intelligent, they have a stronger real world view. And the world is an awful place right now. If anything they are more rational than most.

[scooterscot]

IQ is a dodgy concept - anyone who thinks it's real, has a low one

Mensa declined your membership then?

[scooterscot]

Actually, it hasn't. IIRC there has been shown a 5 point difference on average between those who classify themselves as religious and those who do not. This is not a strong correlation - you'd expect a smart atheist to understand what "strong correlation" means

Religion and politics transcend brains (take that how you prefer )

Religion is a broad term. My reference was to the 'dogmatic' religious types. i.e. God talks to me on a daily basis. Buddhism, although without a God, I have a lot more appreciation of the followers.

[DodgyAgent]

Not as bad as recruitment agents.

fair point

[AtW]

Valuev, also a millionaire

[Hobosapien]

Happiness is not a path, its a choice.

It's a state. Like time it doesn't really exist continuously.

[OwlHoot]

For me I think a lot of intelligent folk are also quite empathetic and less mercenary ...

A lot of intelligent people are also ditherers, and too timid and indecisive to seize an opportunity when it arises.

[xoggoth]

Autistic types who are intelligent but hate the social scene

Not necessarily autistic but the intelligent are less sociable according to this:

The stereotype of the mad, lonely genius might actually have some basis in reality.
Intelligent people tend to crave ‘alone time’ – and are happier when alone even than with their close friends.

This is the – disturbing – sign that someone is really intelligent | Metro News

"Social intelligence", the ability to interact with/manipulate/influence others, is probably more important than IQ in success.

PS I sit alone all day staring at the wall, so am definitely a genius.

[sasguru]

IQ is a dodgy concept - anyone who thinks it's real, has a low one

[MarkT]

I think there is a correlation with monetary success and emotional IQ though.

Autistic types who are intelligent but hate the social scene are very rarely happy, even if making huge numbers as an actuary or something.

See G Brown vs D Cameron. One highly intelligent but an appalling communicator, the other is David Flashman Cameron.

[d000hg]

Not as bad as recruitment agents.

[DodgyAgent]

In my experience the wealthy people I know (self-made) aren't especially intelligent but most of them are/were chancers who saw opportunities and (in some cases) weren't afraid to bend the truth or outright lie to get deals done, often at the expense of others.

For me I think a lot of intelligent folk are also quite empathetic and less mercenary so I think would be less inclined to make dodgy deals (whether out of morality or fear of getting caught) and this can lead to never becoming seriously wealthy, even though intelligent people would generally earn a higher wage.

the worst are so called "intelligent folk" who are envious of those that are richer than they are and turn into leftie liberals. they believe they are superior and dislike the proles and the self made. many of these can be found in Universities, lawyers and public sector institutions.

[Willapp]

In my experience the wealthy people I know (self-made) aren't especially intelligent but most of them are/were chancers who saw opportunities and (in some cases) weren't afraid to bend the truth or outright lie to get deals done, often at the expense of others.

For me I think a lot of intelligent folk are also quite empathetic and less mercenary so I think would be less inclined to make dodgy deals (whether out of morality or fear of getting caught) and this can lead to never becoming seriously wealthy, even though intelligent people would generally earn a higher wage.

[DodgyAgent]

The pursuit of truth has many riches, accumulating money isn't one of them.

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Being an agent I prefer lies and riches to truth and poverty