Reply to: Merkel decides UK immigration policy

[darmstadt]

It was from when the wall came down, all the cheap Turkish labour the Germans had been using were suddenly unemployed and kicked out of Germany due to the influx of cheap east German labour

The Turkish hate the Germans, Oh!! Until today that is

Are you on drugs or something? That is the biggest piece of crap I've heard or are you just making up like the rest of your crowd?

[Support Monkey]

But this mass movement of people aren't just Syrian, far from it. The EU first failed to realise the scale of the problem, then said it could cope - all are welcome - and now has resorted to bribing Turkey mainly due to some guilt hang-up that Germany carries from the War. Basically it's been flip-flopping message-wise and thereby compounding the problem.

It was from when the wall came down, all the cheap Turkish labour the Germans had been using were suddenly unemployed and kicked out of Germany due to the influx of cheap east German labour

The Turkish hate the Germans, Oh!! Until today that is

[DodgyAgent]

Because she's got budget proficit with lower taxation to boot, she knows how to run a country unlike those imbeciles who only attended Eton because they were born in the right family.

HTH

Oh dear even our Russians have chips on their shoulders about the British class system

This country of ours that is run by imbeciles educated at Eton seems to be good enough for you to come and live in? What is wrong with Russia? Is it a coincidence that imbeciles from Eton do not run it?

[Bee]

[AtW]

As an example of how we are surrendering our ability to govern ourselves How can we support an EU that takes months & disallows UK from setting its own welfare yet Merkel can decide on Turkey immigration overnight?

Because she's got budget proficit with lower taxation to boot, she knows how to run a country unlike those imbeciles who only attended Eton because they were born in the right family.

HTH

[sal]

It's been happening since Roman times. Pay off the barbarians or let them sack your civilized cities...

[seanraaron]

But this mass movement of people aren't just Syrian, far from it. The EU first failed to realise the scale of the problem, then said it could cope - all are welcome - and now has resorted to bribing Turkey mainly due to some guilt hang-up that Germany carries from the War. Basically it's been flip-flopping message-wise and thereby compounding the problem.

Well I thought at least half of them were and the Turks are hosting what, 3 million of them? I mean Jordan's population is like %20 refugee now I think, or maybe that's Lebanon? They both have a lot and all three of these countries have a lot less means to deal with them than Europe. Seems fair enough to me to get the EU to pony up some cash to house them all.

[BlasterBates]

UK is not in the Schengen zone.

Indeed but that isn't the point

[The_Equalizer]

Pay it, better that than hordes arriving.

Suppose it's only cost about £7.50 for each of us so far, or £30 for my household.

[SlipTheJab]

And how long before Turkey says 6 billion isn't enough and wants another 3 billion

Pay it, better that than hordes arriving.

[jbond007]

And how long before Turkey says 6 billion isn't enough and wants another 3 billion

[The_Equalizer]

Sorry what would the EU need to have done "in a timely fashion" - stop the war in Syria?

But this mass movement of people aren't just Syrian, far from it. The EU first failed to realise the scale of the problem, then said it could cope - all are welcome - and now has resorted to bribing Turkey mainly due to some guilt hang-up that Germany carries from the War. Basically it's been flip-flopping message-wise and thereby compounding the problem.

[stek]

Do you really think thousands of Turks are going to take up Visa free travel to the UK to come and watch the changing of the guard?

UK is not in the Schengen zone.

[seanraaron]

Why does Turkey hold all the cards though? Possibly a result of the EU not tackling this in a timely fashion? UK is chucking £500million into the 'Turkey sort this mess out for us' fund. So it's not Germany that's deciding, it's whether or not Turkey keeps to its word - or should that be bribe?

Sorry what would the EU need to have done "in a timely fashion" - stop the war in Syria?

[The_Equalizer]

The whole point of the debate is that the UK cannot determine its own immigration policy. So the UKs share of the costs of bribing Turkey is 500 million that is what the UK is obliged to pay as a member of the EU. It is a policy that Merkel has unilaterally decided upon forced upon the rest of the EU by her policy of offering asylum to all refugees. Turkey holds the cards you dullard because it borders Syria and most refugees have to pass through it get to EU countries. So Turkey can choose whether to let them through.

Thought that was point I was making.