Reply to: Ten Euro-myths debunked

[seanraaron]

Plus they can sue our government if we try and stop them carrying tax avoidance

Pity we can't do the same

Well you can trust the Americans right?

[MicrosoftBob]

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Of course the Yanks might pass it just so their companies can sue the hell out of anyone over here that declines a bid they feel is more competitive.

Plus they can sue our government if we try and stop them carrying tax avoidance

Pity we can't do the same

[vetran]

Read it. And? It's just as spun as the leaflet it purports to debunk. As a politician and journalist, the author is an expert at misdirection.


Only about half the expats in Europe are in Spain. Of those in Spain, many are pensioners and a large majority are not rich - just ordinary working class folk.

The middle class go to France.

The upper class and rich go to Switzerland.

fascinating but quite irrelevant to my point. As in my post the majority are in Spain.

Typical EU argument. attack detail irrationally not substance.


Whilst not rich they are in the main self supporting and welcomed in country the majority are probably not affecting the job or housing market. This assumption that Brexit will result in a sea of pensioners returning overnight is about as likely as all the Eastern Europeans leaving on day one or all the French & Italians in the Finance industry bogging off.


The point is to slow the flow and control it. Pointing to pensioners in small numbers is hardly relevant.

[darmstadt]

That is a pretty good explanation of what the UK faces. It also covers EU migrants in the UK.

FTFY

[seanraaron]

TTIP

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Of course the Yanks might pass it just so their companies can sue the hell out of anyone over here that declines a bid they feel is more competitive.

[Eirikur]

W There's a US-EU free trade deal coming (I forget the acronym); .

TTIP

[LondonManc]

What do you mean by "go in with the USA"? We already have plenty of trade with the USA (I work for a US company in fact). There's a US-EU free trade deal coming (I forget the acronym); if anything a Brexit means we miss out on trade with the USA, unless we also spend a few more years negotiating one of our own from a much weaker starting point.

No matter how you look at it the USA is 3,000 miles away by container ship and France is 25 miles away by tunnel (Ireland is 0 miles away by road too).

I'm talking about the thinking 40-odd years ago when the Common Market was all the rage.

[VectraMan]

Another option - one mooted many, many years ago by a previous generation; we leave the EU and go in with the USA on the trade front.

What do you mean by "go in with the USA"? We already have plenty of trade with the USA (I work for a US company in fact). There's a US-EU free trade deal coming (I forget the acronym); if anything a Brexit means we miss out on trade with the USA, unless we also spend a few more years negotiating one of our own from a much weaker starting point.

No matter how you look at it the USA is 3,000 miles away by container ship and France is 25 miles away by tunnel (Ireland is 0 miles away by road too).

[seanraaron]

Another option - one mooted many, many years ago by a previous generation; we leave the EU and go in with the USA on the trade front.

The immigrant issue isn't a problem; it's the illegal immigrant issue that's the problem.

Well the current Democratic hopeful, Hillary Clinton has said NAFTA was a mistake and there should be a moratorium on future free trade deals, so I wouldn't bet the farm on that one, "special relationship" (you know, the one where we ship off Brits to sit in Yankee jails because someone might prosecute them for something eventually) or no.

But yeah, the EU is shackling us and we need someone else to kowtow to promptly after quitting.

[LondonManc]

Another option - one mooted many, many years ago by a previous generation; we leave the EU and go in with the USA on the trade front.

The immigrant issue isn't a problem; it's the illegal immigrant issue that's the problem.

[DodgyAgent]

EU migrants moving to UK balanced by Britons living abroad - FT.com

hmm interesting

I am sure it is if you subscribe to the FT

[BlasterBates]

EU migrants moving to UK balanced by Britons living abroad - FT.com

hmm interesting

[DodgyAgent]

A reasonable article: EU Law Analysis: What happens to British expatriates if the UK leaves the EU?

That is a pretty good explanation of what the UK faces. It also covers EU expats in the UK.

[darmstadt]

Sort of, we'll be run by our unelected bureaucrats rather than the EUs unelected bureaucrats

Oooh, that old chestnut myth again

[darmstadt]

WHat about the millions of UK ex-pats in the US, or Australia, or ... ?

They don't seem to be scuppered, or in any immediate danger of it.

A reasonable article: EU Law Analysis: What happens to British expatriates if the UK leaves the EU?