Reply to: Un-feckin-believable!

[seanraaron]

so make the checks even less subtle and put a third party in charge of it.

The courts could mandate such tests to make the Police beyond reproach.

You'd have to get the courts to try it in the first place. Chicago's problem is that the entire justice system has been enabling police brutality. It's going to take the Federal inquiry to force change, not just better video tech, though this kind of monitoring will be needed to try to rebuild public trust if nothing else.

[LondonManc]

I would prefer they are sacked for beating up a dashcam than a citizen. Let the local civil rights organisation monitor it.

Digital rights organisation covers computer equipment damaged in the line of duty right?

They'd be all over this:
Man jailed for throwing Prestwich Library computer at the wall - because it would not print (From Prestwich and Whitefield Guide)

[vetran]

You're talking about guys who know there's a dash cam recording but still do this stuff anyway. I wouldn't let them near a hard drive.

I would prefer they are sacked for beating up a dashcam than a citizen. Let the local civil rights organisation monitor it.

[LondonManc]

indeed but if it can't be done wirelessly for security reasons then a USB stick with encrypted recordings & status makes sense. Initialise stick at station so you know last recording, insert in car and it downloads from last recording or errors because it hasn't been downloaded recently and won't go onto stick. Sergeant comes out and sticks the usb hard drive in, he nags the last driver for not downloading.

You're talking about guys who know there's a dash cam recording but still do this stuff anyway. I wouldn't let them near a hard drive.

[vetran]

After reading the article about tampering I don't get the sense the sabotage has been that subtle...

so make the checks even less subtle and put a third party in charge of it.

The courts could mandate such tests to make the Police beyond reproach.

[seanraaron]

indeed but if it can't be done wirelessly for security reasons then a USB stick with encrypted recordings & status makes sense. Initialise stick at station so you know last recording, insert in car and it downloads from last recording or errors because it hasn't been downloaded recently and won't go onto stick. Sergeant comes out and sticks the usb hard drive in, he nags the last driver for not downloading.

After reading the article about tampering I don't get the sense the sabotage has been that subtle...

[vetran]

Surely an automatic upload and wipe when the car is plugged back in at station?

indeed but if it can't be done wirelessly for security reasons then a USB stick with encrypted recordings & status makes sense. Initialise stick at station so you know last recording, insert in car and it downloads from last recording or errors because it hasn't been downloaded recently and won't go onto stick. Sergeant comes out and sticks the usb hard drive in, he nags the last driver for not downloading.

[LondonManc]

should be locked in a safe built into the car and keys kept with the garage staff. Random audits checking the video & audio. That way there is no suggestion of tampering by Police. Diagnostic switch at on / off and automatic reporting would make sure you can't go out with a faulty vehicle.

I assumed the uploads were automatic when the cars returned? With 240gb SSDs at £50 it should be possible to store days or weeks of video in the car. Take a 64GB usb drive in to the station when you finish your shift.

Its a no brainer.

Surely an automatic upload and wipe when the car is plugged back in at station?

[Mincepie]

we should have a whip round for him

[seanraaron]

The Chicago police have been repeatedly sabotaging their dashcams: Chicago Police Officers Tampered With Dash Cams -- NYMag

They really need to clean house there and fire a lot of cops. There's been too much of a blind eye from the mayor's office and the attorney general in Chicago for far too long.

[vetran]

The Chicago police have been repeatedly sabotaging their dashcams: Chicago Police Officers Tampered With Dash Cams -- NYMag

should be locked in a safe built into the car and keys kept with the garage staff. Random audits checking the video & audio. That way there is no suggestion of tampering by Police. Diagnostic switch at on / off and automatic reporting would make sure you can't go out with a faulty vehicle.

I assumed the uploads were automatic when the cars returned? With 240gb SSDs at £50 it should be possible to store days or weeks of video in the car. Take a 64GB usb drive in to the station when you finish your shift.

Its a no brainer.

[NickFitz]

Most yank cop cars have dash cams which have captured some outrageous activity, so it's not a universal deterrent for bad cop behaviour, but regardless body-cams would probably be a good idea.

The Chicago police have been repeatedly sabotaging their dashcams: Chicago Police Officers Tampered With Dash Cams -- NYMag

[seanraaron]

In this day and age, it's a no brainer. Protects the public and the police officers.

No doubt in a lot of these shooting cases, the footage would go missing or some technical fault prevented it being recorded...

You'd think so, but given the stuff captured by officer's own dash cams I can only assume they forget it's there or they don't understand the tech.

You'd probably want it doing live streaming to a remote location with some kind of local storage for backup. Circumventing would require a greater level of premeditation than is apparent in many of these incidents. Alternatively IAB could have drones situated to be able to rapidly respond to any officer report that they're checking out a situation and spy on them?

[SimonMac]

In this day and age, it's a no brainer. Protects the public and the police officers.

No doubt in a lot of these shooting cases, the footage would go missing or some technical fault prevented it being recorded...

If you have nothing to hide why would you complain?

Isn't that the logic the Govt. used for the "snoopers charter" that is being shot down (pun intended)

[BrilloPad]

lawyers playing the game. police wearing cameras needed.

That worked well at Waterloo underground didn't it....