Reply to: Job offer cant decide

[ELBBUBKUNPS]

Thanks for all the feedback.

Yeah I get maternity leave in current job 2 weeks, I was up front with new job and told them about baby but that was after offer vi agent and according to agent there were fine with it not sure if they are lying or not.

That commute time I quoted was total for the day so there and back and that's on good day.

I agree best option is to stay were I am now but its hard when I also really need the extra cash the new job are offering and its guaranteed, my current role would need to increase my comp in early next year to be close, I've been told 'not to worry' about it but there is no guarantee and I could end up with no rise or bonus, I would be kicking myself then as I've walked away from around a £12k pay rise. I'm also getting to age were really compared to my peers and with my experience I should be doing a more senior role, if I stay were I am now I just can't see it happening.

I understand my priorities will change when baby turns up but I also want to make sure I'm in as a good a position as I can be to provide for it now and in the future. I hate being so money motivated but London expensive place to live, I could move out but then its longer commute again.

[original PM]

as others have said an understanding employer and flexibility on working hours is worth more than a couple of grand when you have kids - and it gets even more useful as they go to high school and start doing more out of hours activities etc

if however GF is going to be a complete stay at home mum and let you work then you may get away with it and the money is good...

however do not expect to be able to be out of the house from 6.30 am to 6.30 pm and come home to a clean house and dinner on the table - looking after kids for 12+ hours a day is the most demanding job in the world!

[MrMarkyMark]

I thought from the consultations we've been having that was around d or slightly below the average for a contractor? I've not worked anywhere in 15 years where I've done less than that. Even catching a tram in to Manchester takes up-to 45 mins so a large majority of people working in a city will be easily doing more that 1.5 hours. Getting any distance in an hour in rush hour is near impossible nowadays.

Currently a sweet 45 minutes door to door, in London.
Although for 3.5 years, 2 hours door to door, as it was the other side of London.

[northernladuk]

Neither, keep looking

2.5 hours is insane for a commute

I thought from the consultations we've been having that was around d or slightly below the average for a contractor? I've not worked anywhere in 15 years where I've done less than that. Even catching a tram in to Manchester takes up-to 45 mins so a large majority of people working in a city will be easily doing more that 1.5 hours. Getting any distance in an hour in rush hour is near impossible nowadays.

[psychocandy]

2.5 hours each way commute or 1.25 each way?
First kid?

Either way, 12% extra no way - take the easy option. When baby arrives and you find out how hard it is you will be pleased you did this.

[NibblyPig]

Neither, keep looking

2.5 hours is insane for a commute

[Pogle]

You have no idea how you will feel when you become a Dad. Nothing prepares you for it. Your priorities will change completely when junior arrives.
Do you get paternity leave with current employer?
Would you get paternity leave having just started in a new job, or do you have to have been there for a while before you can get it?

Congrats on the little one

[MrMarkyMark]

Sleepless nights, sh1t on your hands, vomit down your back etc.....

And those are just the good bits

[Scrag Meister]

Stick with the no stress option. believe me you will be having some once the baby arrives.

Sleepless nights, sh1t on your hands, vomit down your back etc.....

Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

[TheLordDave]

Post your question on permieforum.co.uk and one of the posters northernpermieladuk will be along to let you know your not cut out to be a permie?

[rl4engc]

I get a lot of flexibility, late starts, working from home and no stress from my manager

There's your answer right there.

[rsingh]

Stay. How would you deal with being canned during the probation period?

[Dallas]

Techncally it's the gf pregnant but you are both pregnant = stay where you are or you will P off the new team with flexibility demands, I have seen it soooo many times before.

[MrMarkyMark]

+1 stick where you are.
+1 there will always be other opportunities.

[oracleslave]

So I can't make my mind up so its time to ask randoms, I've written all the pros and cons out and its about 50/50, one morning gut says go with A the next go with B.

I've got a job offer permy, I'm already permy, I applied for this other job before I knew gf was pregnant and her getting pregnant is making this hard decision whether to take new job. Current permy job money is ok and I get a lot of flexibility, late starts, working from home and no stress from my manager, bonus and pay rises due Feb next year. I like it here but it doesn't really stretch me and there is no real chance of becoming manager, office move in Jan means my commute will go down from 2.5hrs a day to about 1.5hrs.

The new job is about 12% more £ as base, but as I lose bonus if I left current job overall I'm flat. New job is more senior / leadership role, it would be step up for me in seniority wise not that I want to be more senior but I want more £ and this is the only way to get it. In my sector / skill set its the most senior job I've seen and highest paying I've seen ever, so I fear this might be my one opportunity. The commute is same as I currently have 2.5hrs a day.

If it wasn't for baby due in April, I would without hesitation take the new job, but now with baby coming I'm thinking I need the flexibility / shorter commute from my current job, but on the flip side as I mentioned the job I got offered is a one off really, if I don't take I could regret it its a career changer type of role, if I do take it though I might not be able to enjoy fully the babies first few months as I will be trying to set a good impression in new job. New job would start early Jan baby due early April.

What would you do.

You probably won't know which is the right answer until about 6 months after you've lived whatever decision you make. I had 2 thoughts reading that.

1) 12% doesn't seem that much for a once in a lifetime opportunity. People change jobs for that and more than that all the time

2) Once in a lifetime opportunities are seldom that. It's impossible to know what other opportunities are just around the corner