Reply to: Tax credits

[tdhgeek007]

Why didn't he just do that instead of having all this palaver and being found out as a sneaky little man who people are probably not going to trust much in the future?

+1

I said similar to this to one of my family last night, when he was interviewed on the TV. Because he's a smirking sneaky little b*st*ard who doesn't deserve to be in the job.
It's nice to know when you're not on your own with certain thoughts!

[darmstadt]

Here’s part of Osborne’s comment:

“I said I would listen and that is precisely what I intend to do. I believe we can achieve the same goal of reforming tax credits, saving the money we need to save to secure our economy, while at the same time helping in the transition. That is what I intend to do at the autumn statement. I’m determined to deliver that lower welfare, higher wage economy that we were elected to deliver and that the British people want to see.”

Why didn't he just do that instead of having all this palaver and being found out as a sneaky little man who people are probably not going to trust much in the future?

[fullyautomatix]

The first bullet has been fired by Corbyn ! The revolution begins here. I think elections are not far off now. Instead of increasing the taxes for the higher earners Tories trying to cut the hard earned cash of the poorest. Get them Corbyn!

[DodgyAgent]

The bitter reality is that a large portion of the population can't afford to be a single income family and have kids without childcare.

Yes but that is because public services are so awful and houses are in such poor supply

[sal]

If you need childcare you shouldn't be having kids in the first place.

Having kids only to leave them in the care of strangers all week is a pretty scumbag move.

If it's a Few hours a week to help them socialise then that's different - and not "needed".

The bitter reality is that a large portion of the population can't afford to be a single income family and have kids without childcare.

[Chuck]

If someone is on dole for more than a year, or if a single mum has a history of popping out kids, castrate them all. Reduce the dole gene pool and everything is sorted.

I really think we're getting somewhere here. There have been some excellent suggestions in this thread.

[fullyautomatix]

Perhaps there could be some sort of lock to stop people shagging unless they can prove they have the means if things go as nature intended....

If someone is on dole for more than a year, or if a single mum has a history of popping out kids, castrate them all. Reduce the dole gene pool and everything is sorted.

[psychocandy]

You should prepay before you have children. The money can be stored in escrow and you can draw on it when you need it.

Perhaps there could be some sort of lock to stop people shagging unless they can prove they have the means if things go as nature intended....

[VectraMan]

I picture VectraMan looking and sounding like the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUnhfvGdmmw

I was going to say something flippant, but that clip is really disturbing.

[shaunbhoy]

Two people (at least) in this thread think parents should have children only after they have saved all the funds necessary to raise them, from cradle to adulthood.

FFS!!! I believe a giant "WHOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHH!!!!!" may be in order.

[OwlHoot]

.. if (their) point was that you should save before having them then I agree with you

It was ...

Nobody should have children unless they have at least enough money in the bank to pay for them for 18 years.

There's more than enough people already. You're not doing anyone any favours by creating more. ...

I picture VectraMan looking and sounding like the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUnhfvGdmmw

[AtW]

There's more than enough people already. You're not doing anyone any favours by creating more.

Pension system's ponzi scheme only works with continuous increases in younger population

[DodgyAgent]

Two people (at least) in this thread think parents should have children only after they have saved all the funds necessary to raise them, from cradle to adulthood.

Assuming it is desirable for more than about 0.000001% of the population to have offspring, I claimed the idea was idiotic in practice.

The point I thought they were making was that if you want children you should be able to look after them yourself not rely on the state. if the point was that you should save before having them then I agree with you

[Zero Liability]

If you need childcare you shouldn't be having kids in the first place.

Having kids only to leave them in the care of strangers all week is a pretty scumbag move.

If it's a Few hours a week to help them socialise then that's different - and not "needed".

Alternatively, you can leave them to a carer and have an app inform you when your kid goes to the potty. Might as well just buy a Tamagotchi at that point.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Get more immigrants to work as cheap child minders? j/k

Free child care for 6+ months until school, which is the case in many other countries would really help.

The whole notion that people needing financial help from the state have to pay income taxes in the first place is a bit ridiculous.

If you need childcare you shouldn't be having kids in the first place.

Having kids only to leave them in the care of strangers all week is a pretty scumbag move.

If it's a Few hours a week to help them socialise then that's different - and not "needed".