Reply to: Consensual sex while drunk

[original PM]

No. Being let off implies she was guilty. She was found not guilty which means she didn't assault him. The jury on examining the evidence, decided that the beating was consensual.

That was his story, and the jury didn't believe it.

Interesting she was quite clearly guilty of beating him to a point where he had to go to A&E - that is not in question

What is in question is whether he wanted her to or not and therefore whether it is assault.

[vetran]

During the trial Mr Lock admitted chaining and whipping the woman but said: 'It was supposed to be kinky fun'.

The court also heard that Mr Lock had four previous convictions for domestic violence against three former partners.

Outside court he said he was 'disgusted' the case had been brought to court, saying: 'I didn't do anything wrong'.

And I suggested he had been let off in the original post.

[MyUserName]

It completely baffles me why people don't just use the phrase "safe word" as a safe word?

[EternalOptimist]

If it's a woman who forgets the safe-word, man is guilty. If a man forgets the safe word, woman is not guilty.

The safe word is RED, always has been, always will be

[BrilloPad]

Here we go

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...oman-then.html

In that case the woman got anonymity. Why did the man not get anonymity in this case?

Personally I think all this talk of sexism is nonsense. If you get very drunk you will do things you cannot remember. It is no good feeling guilty later - then going to the police.

A female friend of mine had a mistress. One night the mistress got very drunk. The friend's husband had sex with the mistress. She made all the running and had two thundering orgasms. The following day she was amazed by what she had done. No recollection whatsoever.

[mudskipper]

Here we go

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...oman-then.html

[TykeMerc]

Why try to upset a perfectly good trip on the outrage bus? Spoilsports!

[mudskipper]

No. Being let off implies she was guilty. She was found not guilty which means she didn't assault him. The jury on examining the evidence, decided that the beating was consensual.

That was his story, and the jury didn't believe it.

This.

It does sound dodgy, and it's hard to imagine wanting to be beaten (or do the beating) to the point of requiring hospital treatment for sexual kicks, but it does indeed takes all sorts.

Pretty sure there was a similar one recently where the genders were reversed, and he was also found not guilty. Off to google...

[NotAllThere]

Erm yes but in this case the women was let off...

No. Being let off implies she was guilty. She was found not guilty which means she didn't assault him. The jury on examining the evidence, decided that the beating was consensual.

What part of the article isn't assault/rape? He passed out and came to with her beating the crap out of him?

That was his story, and the jury didn't believe it.

[AtW]

Those men who envy that women getting it so good should change their gender and STFU ...

[original PM]

Political correctness is intellectual communism

[TykeMerc]

What part of the article isn't assault/rape? He passed out and came to with her beating the crap out of him?

Because, as the others have said, it was a woman doing it to a man, if the situation was reversed then he'd be looking at multiple years in jail. At a guess GBH, Assault and Rape would have been levelled against a man in the same situation. Add some more if the woman is black/asian/muslim/bisexual/missing a limb.

Equality is a one way street, anyone that thinks otherwise is a deluded fool.

[NibblyPig]

What part of the article isn't assault/rape? He passed out and came to with her beating the crap out of him?

[centurian]

PS I wonder what the court would make of a case I heard of. Couple engage in consensual BDSM session. Woman forgets the safe word! scary stuff...

If it's a woman who forgets the safe-word, man is guilty. If a man forgets the safe word, woman is not guilty.

HTH

Not that I have any direct experience with the subject matter, but how do you possibly "forget" a safe-word. Presumably the rules of BDSM mean that "no" means "yes", in fact everything you say means "yes", except for the safe-word. Surely that word is going to be drilled into your mind

[vetran]

Erm yes but in this case the women was let off. Had it been the other way round the man would have gone to prison.

So the tables are exactly as they were and inequality is rife.

Have to agree.

Regardless of the BDSM angle if the sexes been reversed I imagine the outcome in court would have been different.