Stone me, Trump said sommat sensible.

[MicrosoftBob]

John McAffe is also running, and despite a colorful career and run ins with the law, at least he does public speaking well unlike Trumps paranoid ramblings

[SpontaneousOrder]

The West didn't interfere (not directly at least) in Syria up until recently and look at the cluster f**k it is now, Iraq and Libya are in much better state.

They were supplying & training the 'moderate' rebels (you know - the ones that were eating their dead victims hearts), who later turned out to be ISIS. And half of those fighters were products of the razing of north Africa & Iraq since all their national institutions were destroyed.

The reality is those countries were not ready for (relatively) civilised leadership. Even if I weren't cynical and didn't suppose that it was all intended to turn out this way, it was obvious at the time exactly what would happen.

[tomtomagain]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/middle-eas...4.html#BaKuRT8

It's a tad difficult to disagree with that.

They may have been monsters, but the present chaotic monsters are worse.

Given that you can never predict the future, following that policy you would never intervene in anything at all.

That of course would not stop bad stuff happening.

[darmstadt]

Of the individuals running for both parties' nominations, he strikes me as one of the more sensible. Rand Paul aside, the rest are typical career politician clones.

What even Carly, who has also actually had a real job

[Zero Liability]

Of the individuals running for both parties' nominations, he strikes me as one of the more sensible. Rand Paul aside, the rest are typical career politician clones.

[sal]

Probably, but not to say the turmoil would not still have happened at some time in the future.

^This, with the proliferation of the Internet and mass media in the arab countries, the population there is allured by the "Western" way of life and controlling them is getting harder and harder for the dictators. So even if Saddam and Gaddafi, were still in power it would have been a mater of time for the regimes to topple. The West didn't interfere (not directly at least) in Syria up until recently and look at the cluster f**k it is now, Iraq and Libya are in much better state.

[vetran]

They may have been monsters, but they were our monsters.

FTFY

Unfortunately the nutters we put in were useful keeping the lid on it.

[xoggoth]

Probably, but not to say the turmoil would not still have happened at some time in the future.

[zeitghost]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/middle-eas...4.html#BaKuRT8

It's a tad difficult to disagree with that.

They may have been monsters, but the present chaotic monsters are worse.

U.S. Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump said on Sunday the Middle East would be more stable if Muammar Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein were still in power in Libya and Iraq, saying it's "not even a contest".

Trump mentioned the countries in comparison to current efforts to drive Syrian President Bashar al-Assad out of power.

"You can make the case, if you look at Libya, look at what we did there, it's a mess," Trump said on NBC.

"If you look at Saddam Hussein with Iraq, look what we did there, it's a mess. It's going to be the same thing" in Syria, he said.

Asked by NBC's Chuck Todd if the Middle East would be more stable with Gaddafi and Saddam in power, Trump replied, "Of course it would be."

Trump, who leads the field of Republicans seeking the presidency in the November 2016 election in public opinion polls, has said he supports Russian efforts to fight Islamic State militants, even though Russia has backed Assad.

Trump said last week Assad might be replaced by someone worse if he were ousted.

The White House opposes both Islamic State and Assad, blaming him for attacks on civilians that have radicalised the opposition. President Barack Obama warned Russia on Friday that its campaign in Syria would pull Moscow into a "quagmire"

Of the individuals running for both parties' nominations, he strikes me as one of the more sensible. Rand Paul aside, the rest are typical career politician clones.

A new definition of "sensible" that we've never previously encountered.