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Originally posted by Zero Liability View PostSo is this the step before making all self employed/contractors/freelancers etc into PAYE permies? Miliband had the same harebrained ideas.
Doesn't matter though, doubt Labour will return to power for decades to come, and emigration is also always an option. The greater risk is Osborne co-opting bad ideas.
If Jez & Co can get the Tories to make some people based policies just to compete that's a win in my book...
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostYou're a complete idiot if that's what you took from what I wrote. There are startups based on sound business ideas and a great product. And there are startups who only exist due to attracting seed funding, run at a loss for years while hiring hipsters in some silly swanky office, and then collapse leaving nothing behind.
This sweeping cliche offers neither facts nor any meaningful insight into the world of business. All it does is show us what an idiot you are.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostWhen every argument you make ends up with you telling me what it is I think, and getting it wrong, what does that say about how seriously your ideas can be taken?
Nowhere have I said we should stop people getting rich, or that being rich is bad, or that taxes should be much higher.
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Originally posted by diseasex View Postbenefits discourage work . Face it. My friend is on JSA - he says he wont start working untill it ends... Its pennies, i know , but still
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So is this the step before making all self employed/contractors/freelancers etc into PAYE permies? Miliband had the same harebrained ideas.
Doesn't matter though, doubt Labour will return to power for decades to come, and emigration is also always an option. The greater risk is Osborne co-opting bad ideas.Last edited by Zero Liability; 29 September 2015, 11:16.
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Originally posted by diseasex View Postbenefits discourage work . Face it. My friend is on JSA - he says he wont start working untill it ends... Its pennies, i know , but still
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostAh yes. The "everyone on benefits is a sky-watching junkie slob" argument. Similar techniques are used in wars and purges to dehumanise the enemy. Jews would be familiar with it, for example.
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Ah yes. The "everyone on benefits is a sky-watching junkie slob" argument. Similar techniques are used in wars and purges to dehumanise the enemy. Jews would be familiar with it, for example.
Of course "decent people" would by the slightest of coincidences just happen to be people like you?
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostWhen every argument you make ends up with you telling me what it is I think, and getting it wrong, what does that say about how seriously your ideas can be taken?
Nowhere have I said we should stop people getting rich, or that being rich is bad, or that taxes should be much higher.
People are not equal and will never be. There are drunks, junkies etc, and we are subsidising them . Now when idiots like Corbyn starts to rule that junkies get more. And decent people less.
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostWhat chance does the economy have of doing well when people like you and Corbyn do your utmost to prevent people from becoming rich.
Nowhere have I said we should stop people getting rich, or that being rich is bad, or that taxes should be much higher.
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View Postdoogh, you're a complete idiot. Every thriving company was a startup once.
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Originally posted by diseasex View PostYes that's me, the rest are busy with processing and paying my invoices
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostYeah, and all those tech startups are such a boon to the economy, spending other people's money and 9 times out of ten going bust.
If you want to talk about startups and entrepreneurs then maybe a thread about self-employment isn't the best place. Because that's what I was talking about.
If nine out of ten businesses fail then so what? Do we just stop investing in business? It does not seem to occur to you just how hard it is to set up and run a successful business. Nor does it occur to you that the entire economy depends on these few and far between successes to employ people and keep your leftie friends with their entitlements.
Do you really think that of the very few that actually make it that they are going to be happy giving away over 60% (closer to 70% if you include NI) to other people to p*ss up the wall?
It seems Corbyn does not know the difference between being self employed and running a business. What chance does the economy have of doing well when people like you and Corbyn do your utmost to prevent people from becoming rich.
Envy is the most destructive of all the seven sins
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