Reply to: Something we've all known since New Lie came to power

[DimPrawn]

So thousands of highly skilled and well educated migrants come to the UK and take those jobs, what is there left for all those highly skilled and educated indigenous people?
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We sell our houses to each other over and over again, each time at a profit. Simples.

[tomtomagain]

So thousands of highly skilled and well educated migrants come to the UK and take those jobs, what is there left for all those highly skilled and educated indigenous people?

Well they must be doing something as large swaths of middle-class, middle England are not unemployed.

The more intelligent, hard working people there are the more economic activity there is. The more economic activity there is the more jobs are created.

[AtW]

So thousands of highly skilled and well educated migrants come to the UK and take those jobs, what is there left for all those highly skilled and educated indigenous people?

[darmstadt]

To summarise, highly skilled and well educated migrants who come here to fill well identified skills shortages are welcome. This is the Australian type system where you get points for education, English ability, professional qualifications and working experience. You are also background checked as best as possible for criminal record, you need professional references and you undergo health checks and tests to prevent known issues. All good, even if said persons are coming to take IT jobs.

So thousands of highly skilled and well educated migrants come to the UK and take those jobs, what is there left for all those highly skilled and educated indigenous people?

As it is, many of the highly skilled and well educated people from abroad who would have migrated, won't now due to (a) the way that their press has portrayed the British as racists who don't like foreigners and (b) their economies are on the up and so their skills are required in their own countries and they're being remunerated for them. There will be some, but not many.

[MicrosoftBob]

I was just teasing you guys. But then it's quite fun to see what kind of bile Bob will come out with.

Back in your box Jeremy Corbyn

[DimPrawn]

To summarise, highly skilled and well educated migrants who come here to fill well identified skills shortages are welcome. This is the Australian type system where you get points for education, English ability, professional qualifications and working experience. You are also background checked as best as possible for criminal record, you need professional references and you undergo health checks and tests to prevent known issues. All good, even if said persons are coming to take IT jobs.

What we don't need is zero skilled, uneducated, criminal, long term sick people here. We already have lots of them, and the ones we already have should be encouraged to contribute to society and pay more tax than they take from the system.

At the moment we have economic and health migrants coming for a free ride. No checks, no barriers just a complete uncontrolled mass free for all.

And you and I are paying for it, hence the need to screw contractors into the ground financially. This is what your loss of expenses and increased company taxes is paying for.

Vote LibLabCon, get screwed.

[d000hg]

they may pay tax now, but frequently they are net claimants, so what little tax they do pay is repaid in benefits.

I was just teasing you guys. But then it's quite fun to see what kind of bile Bob will come out with.

[vetran]

They should be paid more?

of course, and maybe the corporations can pay a bit o UK tax as well.

[vetran]

Depends what you define tax as

Anyone earning NMW won't be paying income tax as they moved the personal allowance upwards to take them out of the income tax bracket

They will not be able to avoid VAT on everyone though, so in that sense they ARE tax payers

they may pay tax now, but frequently they are net claimants, so what little tax they do pay is repaid in benefits.

[d000hg]

We pay them to go to work and subsidise corporations to pay low wages

They should be paid more?

[vetran]

If by ONS statistics you mean lobbyist and pressure group MigrationWatch(TM) Your Unbiased Source Of Evil Immigrant Statistics

Based on ONS and supported by a number of other respected studies.

of course you can shout in the wilderness as much as you like slinging mud.

[MicrosoftBob]

This isn't true.

a)This WILL be done, it hasn't been that way historically
b)This is based on people working 30 (IIRC) hours per week. Not 35, 37, 40, or 60

If you want what WILL be done, then historically any tax credits will more than off set any income tax

We pay them to go to work and subsidise corporations to pay low wages

[d000hg]

Depends what you define tax as

Anyone earning NMW won't be paying income tax as they moved the personal allowance upwards to take them out of the income tax bracket

This isn't true.

a)This WILL be done, it hasn't been that way historically
b)This is based on people working 30 (IIRC) hours per week. Not 35, 37, 40, or 60

[MicrosoftBob]

People doing full-time low-wage jobs ARE tax-payers.

Depends what you define tax as

Anyone earning NMW won't be paying income tax as they moved the personal allowance upwards to take them out of the income tax bracket

They will not be able to avoid VAT on everyone though, so in that sense they ARE tax payers

[NibblyPig]

If by ONS statistics you mean lobbyist and pressure group MigrationWatch(TM) Your Unbiased Source Of Evil Immigrant Statistics