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Previously on "Are we repeating same mistakes as 1930s?"

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  • Gumbo Robot
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Bollox! Greens have the right idea on defense(except nuclear deterrent). We only need enough defense to defend our country.
    They want to get rid of the army altogether and replace it with something that would make Dad's Army look like a crack special forces unit.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Flashman View Post
    Spend more on Defence you feckwitts! We need the SC cleared jobs...oh and it might help defend the country.
    Bollox! Greens have the right idea on defense(except nuclear deterrent). We only need enough defense to defend our country.

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  • Flashman
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    Spend more on Defence you feckwitts! We need the SC cleared jobs...oh and it might help defend the country.

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  • MyUserName
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Churchill did not want to stop at Berlin in 45.

    We should have listened.
    That would be unthinkable!!!

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  • MyUserName
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    I'm happy to use 'we' in that context.

    I also don't for a second believe that they could not have produced 3 more bombs in that period.
    They could eventually but not by the end of 1945 (if my memory serves correctly!).

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  • PurpleGorilla
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Germany now has more control over Europe that it did in 1943. Greece does not negotiate it's budget with the EU, it negotiates it with Germany. Merkel is now "open to discussion" over the United Kingdom's immigration policy.

    We should have nuked Moscow, Leningrad and Stalingrad in 45.
    [emoji102]

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
    But surely by the time they'd have enough ships to need that many top brass, the existing ones will have died of old age
    its all about having a few spare, pour encourager les autres.

    watch out they are firing admirals at us

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  • MicrosoftBob
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    Originally posted by Goatfell View Post
    That old chestnut again.

    You can build a ship and train an able seaman pretty quickly, you can't magic an experienced admiral out of thin air.
    But surely by the time they'd have enough ships to need that many top brass, the existing ones will have died of old age

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  • Goatfell
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    We still have more Admirals, Vice Admirals & Captains than surface vessels - 40 Admirals & 260 Captains would appear to be a tad too many for 19 ships!
    That old chestnut again.

    You can build a ship and train an able seaman pretty quickly, you can't magic an experienced admiral out of thin air.

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  • Troll
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Our defence cuts leave us looking feeble in the eyes of the world - Telegraph

    We are appeasing our enemies and making the same mistakes as in the 1930s during the rise of Nazism

    I disagree. We have a nuclear deterrent. However we are repeating same mistakes as 1920s. Gap between rich and poor is widening all the time.
    We still have more Admirals, Vice Admirals & Captains than surface vessels - 40 Admirals & 260 Captains would appear to be a tad too many for 19 ships!

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  • SpontaneousOrder
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    Lets suppose we had no army at all.

    Who would invade us?

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Germany now has more control over Europe that it did in 1943. Greece does not negotiate it's budget with the EU, it negotiates it with Germany. Merkel is now "open to discussion" over the United Kingdom's immigration policy.

    We should have nuked Moscow, Leningrad and Stalingrad in 45.
    Churchill did not want to stop at Berlin in 45.

    We should have listened.

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  • TykeMerc
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    The Enola Gay had flight radius of 2900 miles.
    The B29's were all deployed in the Pacific and by the time of the bombing missions the Japanese had very few fighters left, even less experienced pilots still alive and the approach was all over the sea. The soviets had plenty of fighters, including high altitude ones, lots of veteran pilots and a decent air defence network.

    Even if they could have assembled a number of weapons (doubtful as plutonium was a sod to get) delivery would have at best been hugely doubtful and with the Soviet military fully mobilised the consequences would have been appalling.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
    True, plus the delivery would have been more than a trivial challenge, it's a long way to those cities from areas not controlled by the Soviets at the time.

    The Enola Gay had flight radius of 2900 miles.

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  • Zero Liability
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Our defence cuts leave us looking feeble in the eyes of the world - Telegraph

    We are appeasing our enemies and making the same mistakes as in the 1930s during the rise of Nazism

    I disagree. We have a nuclear deterrent. However we are repeating same mistakes as 1920s. Gap between rich and poor is widening all the time.
    You can thank activist central bank policy for the latter.

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