Reply to: Why don't they just change their religion?

[MicrosoftBob]

The big bang theory sounds an awful lot like the ex nihilo creation of Christianity and other faiths. A well known observation, not mine.

Personally I think the big bang theory is what happens when you give relativistic cosmologists a lot of weed.

Sheldon would not approve

[vwdan]

Do we need to discuss what a theory is, in a scientific sense?

It's not a hypothesis.

[SpontaneousOrder]

MGM is bad too. Although not so bad I dare say.

[SpontaneousOrder]

The big bang theory sounds an awful lot like the ex nihilo creation of Christianity and other faiths. A well known observation, not mine.

Personally I think the big bang theory is what happens when you give relativistic cosmologists a lot of weed.

Also, the BBT doesn't suppose that it answer the question of how we all got here. All it is is a a theory, based on evidence, to suggest what happened a long time ago.

"What was before the BB" isn't an invalid question. The BBT doesn't suppose that there was nothing before or that there was necessarily no cause. Just that there was a big bang which created the universe as we observe it. It's hardly mystical, just like it's hardly mystical to suggest that an oak tree grows from an acorn.

[Dactylion]

I know a song about immigrants.

I am not getting into this thread for any other reason than to applaud you Sir for this!!!!

[Gibbon]

The vast majority of people are born to their religious outlookAnyone who's done even the most cursory study will know that there is a vast different between superstition and religion. Many non-religious people are highly superstitious, so the two cannot possibly be synonymous.

Your premise is flawed. Religion is but a subset of superstition.
Not all superstitions are religious.
All religions are based on superstitions.

[DodgyAgent]

The big bang theory sounds an awful lot like the ex nihilo creation of Christianity and other faiths. A well known observation, not mine.

Personally I think the big bang theory is what happens when you give relativistic cosmologists a lot of weed.

It is a theory not a truth.

[Batcher]

Sorry, I get mixed up with different users on here sometimes. For a moment I thought you were one of the not-completely-thick-as-a-plank users who was capable of critical thought. My mistake.

There is a big difference between insulting and belittling and despising a strongly held religious belief and those who hold them, and insulting and belittling the hateful, hackneyed, wannabe-shocking, sophomoric, tiresome, unoriginal babblings of an uninformed cowardly troll.

I don't necessarily agree with all aspects of every religion, and I think some aspects are hateful, some religious messaging worthy of being mocked. However that doesn't mean I despise all believers of religion.
In the same way, see above about internet comments. That doesn't mean I despise all internet users. Maybe quite a lot of them, but not all.

That's all very Christian of you

[unixman]

Big bang is a theory based on scientific evidence and that is all it is. There is a difference between what is true and what is a theory.
Give me some examples of religious "evidence"

The big bang theory sounds an awful lot like the ex nihilo creation of Christianity and other faiths. A well known observation, not mine.

Personally I think the big bang theory is what happens when you give relativistic cosmologists a lot of weed.

[MicrosoftBob]

And FGM

[DodgyAgent]

Their evidence, is that because you can't proof it doesn't exist, it exists

Hence the rise of the FSM

And FGM

[MicrosoftBob]

Big bang is a theory based on scientific evidence and that is all it is. There is a difference between what is true and what is a theory.
Give me some examples of religious "evidence"

Their evidence, is that because you can't proof it doesn't exist, it exists

Hence the rise of the FSM

[SpontaneousOrder]

Writing off an entire section of the human race because they don't hold the same beliefs as you is a pretty vile attitude.

That's not what he's doing though. He's writing off an entire section of the human race for holding invalid beliefs.

The difference is huge.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Sorry, I get mixed up with different users on here sometimes. For a moment I thought you were one of the not-completely-thick-as-a-plank users who was capable of critical thought. My mistake.

There is a big difference between insulting and belittling and despising a strongly held religious belief and those who hold them, and insulting and belittling the hateful, hackneyed, wannabe-shocking, sophomoric, tiresome, unoriginal babblings of an uninformed cowardly troll.

I don't necessarily agree with all aspects of every religion, and I think some aspects are hateful, some religious messaging worthy of being mocked. However that doesn't mean I despise all believers of religion.
In the same way, see above about internet comments. That doesn't mean I despise all internet users. Maybe quite a lot of them, but not all.

My point is that some things are worthy of derision. The fact that some silly ideas are widely held does nothing to reduce the ridiculousness of those ideas.

One man may defend such ideas, and is as such promoting evil in the world (willful irrationality is evil - as all good is a product of rationality).

Another man may point out that those ideas are evil.

I'd suggest that man A who calls out man B for being evil or foolish for the tone in which he points out the evils of such irrationality, while he himself defends or excuses evil, needs to question his own integrity.

[DodgyAgent]

Many religious people have plenty of evidence for what they believe. The fact that you wouldn't accept that evidence is entirely irrelevant. The big bang theory is accept as true because of the evidence. It's never been proved as "true".

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Big bang is a theory based on scientific evidence and that is all it is. There is a difference between what is true and what is a theory.
Give me some examples of religious "evidence"