Reply to: 100,000 civil service jobs to go?

[BrilloPad]

I think there's plenty of working class individuals intelligent enough not to swallow Labour's (or the unions', for that matter) vapid class warfare rhetoric. It's just that in some areas, the Tory brand is so toxic (whether unjustified or not) that Labour serves as a protest vote. We'll see how that shapes up in a few years with UKIP and other parties as an alternative.

That's what everyone says in the opinion polls. At the ballot box it is different.

[minestrone]

The 'onsite' one that existed in the canteen, or that brewers fare thing (The Crooked Lum ?) that they built on the edge ?

The answer would be 'both' though....

Out of interest how would you rate hutchy?

I would rather burn in hell than send the kid to St Aloysius where I spent a period of incarceration.

Edit:

Shawlands academy and Holyrood are clearly non starters, I don't want my children in IS or fighting me.

[Zero Liability]

Labour are now totally dead. They only got into power in 1997 by being pseudo-tory. In 13 years they did everything a Tory government would have done.

The unions are now sick of that and want a party to support the working class. Who will vote Labour anyway.

I am concerned there is no effective opposition.

I think there's plenty of working class individuals intelligent enough not to swallow Labour's (or the unions', for that matter) vapid class warfare rhetoric. It's just that in some areas, the Tory brand is so toxic (whether unjustified or not) that Labour serves as a protest vote. We'll see how that shapes up in a few years with UKIP and other parties as an alternative.

[Troll]

Department of Energy and Climate Change

1600 overpaid fookwits can go

[minestrone]

I believe the target was for the coalition 1 million public sector job cuts, I think they were on target to get that. 100,000 job losses in the next term is hardly a great number in comparison.

[TestMangler]

Some kind of employee social club thing.

Did a contract in EK a few years ago, in the science park, one of these ones where they hire you and don't actually have any work to give you, all the contractors were in the Crooked Lum every lunch time getting hammered on stella.

Aye, the social club thing was a good old Civil Service Social Club, not for profit, for the members, by the members type thing, so the drinks were cheap as chips. Like most things, it was divided by class and religion though most of the committee were blue overall industrial staff and so were all the volunteers. Scientific grades were usually made to feel less than welcome We had the advantage of being on flexi time though, which the industrials didn't have, so we could nip down early on a Friday lunch time and dominate the snooker table.

[minestrone]

The 'onsite' one that existed in the canteen, or that brewers fare thing (The Crooked Lum ?) that they built on the edge ?

The answer would be 'both' though....

Some kind of employee social club thing.

Did a contract in EK a few years ago, in the science park, one of these ones where they hire you and don't actually have any work to give you, all the contractors were in the Crooked Lum every lunch time getting hammered on stella.

[TestMangler]

Did you ever drink in that pub they had in your old work? I was invited in a couple of times, pints were dirt cheap if I remember.

The 'onsite' one that existed in the canteen, or that brewers fare thing (The Crooked Lum ?) that they built on the edge ?

The answer would be 'both' though....

[minestrone]

The Tories did that in the early 90's with the UK IRE's (except the National Physical laboratory if I remember correctly). Place I worked was re-designated as 'An executive agency of the DTI', and suddenly we were no longer 'Civil Service'. Thankfully though. Civil Service redundancy terms still applied When they asked for volunteers, they were expecting some trouble from unions and the like. The only problem they ended up with was the massive number of people clamouring for the redundo payout. Took me two years of pulling all kinds of scams to get it. Got the nice payout and the suspended (index linked) pension and went contracting. Win/Win !

Did you ever drink in that pub they had in your old work? I was invited in a couple of times, pints were dirt cheap if I remember.

[TestMangler]

The Tories did that in the early 90's with the UK IRE's (except the National Physical laboratory if I remember correctly). Place I worked was re-designated as 'An executive agency of the DTI', and suddenly we were no longer 'Civil Service'. Thankfully though. Civil Service redundancy terms still applied When they asked for volunteers, they were expecting some trouble from unions and the like. The only problem they ended up with was the massive number of people clamouring for the redundo payout. Took me two years of pulling all kinds of scams to get it. Got the nice payout and the suspended (index linked) pension and went contracting. Win/Win !

[NotAllThere]

In order to reduce 100'000 civil service jobs, there will need to set up a project to do the work, which will require hiring more staff. Upon project completion - if Labour aren't in power by then - the original 100'000 jobs will simply be categorised into agencies or suchlike; still funded by the government but no longer civil servants.

It's all in the civil service handbook.

[MercladUK]

These kind of celebrations seem most premature.

• Tories are 99 seats ahead of Labour.
• SNP gained 50 seats
• LibDems lost 49 seats

Sure there was some overlap but still, Tories didn't win by beating Labour, they won by picking the corpse of LibDems and the SNP doing the same to Scottish Labour.

In 5 years, anything could happen.

Agreed.

10 million voted for the Tories. what is our current population circa 70 million? so 6/7ths of the population didn't vote for the Tories.

Also, if you knew how they are getting rid of Civil Servants where I work it would horrify you. Six figure payoffs!!

[OwlHoot]

Tories may axe 100,000 civil service jobs over next half-decade, union warns | Politics | The Guardian

With a bit of luck they will be the ones causing all the red tape that strangles the UK. Businesses will then thrive creating 200,000 jobs...

Nah, they will be the actual useful jobs like environmental health, and rural affairs, and inspecting canals etc etc.

The fewer civil servants fussing over things like that, the easier it will be for the Tories to build over the countryside as they are itching to start.

[BrilloPad]

HMRC (IR35 division) could stand to lose a few since it's a dead duck.

I wish they would get rid of S58 division!

[d000hg]

These kind of celebrations seem most premature.

• Tories are 99 seats ahead of Labour.
• SNP gained 50 seats
• LibDems lost 49 seats

Sure there was some overlap but still, Tories didn't win by beating Labour, they won by picking the corpse of LibDems and the SNP doing the same to Scottish Labour.

In 5 years, anything could happen.