Reply to: Theresa May warns that foreign student numbers will hit 600,000 in 2020s

[vetran]

I actually know all of that, I was primarily questioning the use of the word 'beneficial.' If a student comes to the UK, does their studies and returns home and uses their newly found knowledge to benefit their own country then its not really that beneficial to the UK apart from the monies paid to the higher education center for those studies.

Disagree the more people in power we educate and support round the world the better its likely to be. If we educate scientists, engineers and other experts in Africa it should help them develop their own country. If we expose them to our version of democracy hopefully they will prefer that to the various dictatorships around the world and fight for Democracy.

[Zero Liability]

You're right. I was being a bit over the top there, just cutting their goolies off would suffice.

Except mine obviously.

Well not hugely on topic, but I don't think you can fully exculpate females. Even if you look at things like criminality, mothers hitting children at a young age - sometimes even infants - inhibits the development of the ability to reason and negotiate, and if you already are in the 2 - 4% of the populace that has psychopathic proclivities (and again this includes women), that could push you into criminality or, to repeat myself, politics. And that's just one facet of it.

[AtW]

I've known about 'students' coming over and not returning for years but thats not the fault of the student but of the UK border controls

How is UK BORDER control supposed to deal with overstayers? They can and should be caught on their way out - lists of ALL passengers are available with DOB, it's easy to cross match vs expired visas even if there are no actual border controls, then arrest at the check in desk, simples.

Make students post a safety bond (5-7k) or obtain 3rd party insurance policy to payout UK in case of overstaying as condition of getting VISA and problem will be sorted.

[original PM]

I actually know all of that, I was primarily questioning the use of the word 'beneficial.' If a student comes to the UK, does their studies and returns home and uses their newly found knowledge to benefit their own country then its not really that beneficial to the UK apart from the monies paid to the higher education center for those studies.

I've known about 'students' coming over and not returning for years but thats not the fault of the student but of the UK border controls and the higher education center and that needs to be stopped but you have to admit, that if you live in a tuliphole of a country then its a lot cheaper to get a student visa than pay a human trafficker a tulipload of money to get to a better existence?

As for homegrown students getting pissed up, well I only have the British press to rely on there, as in the photos of all the student do's that are shown at start and end of term, I never see gangs of Asian/African/other students running riot...Mind you the students I do know in the UK are a hard working bunch and doing very valuable courses which will benefit the country once they finish

It is the fault of the students they are issued study visas in good faith and abuse the system.

We need to stop giving people excuses for their behaviour and instead make them accountable for it.

[xoggoth]

Bit of a leap, don't you think

You're right. I was being a bit over the top there, just cutting their goolies off would suffice.

Except mine obviously.

[darmstadt]

Sorry D, but like so many others you really do live in a dream world of deliberate ignorance! You are not an idiot, so try checking the facts sometimes instead of just relying on your PC instincts.

Student visas are used by many simply to enter the UK illegally. Some 51% of those from Nigeria and nearly 50% of those from India and Pakistan on a 3 year student visa are still here after 6 years. In previous years the Home Office has had to clamp down on visas from places like Nepal because of a huge surges in suspect applications. Not a press invention, I personally have some experience of these people.

Just a couple of links for you (from BBC and Independent, not the Daily Mail) as you clearly cannot be bothered to check:

BBC One - Panorama, Immigration Undercover: The Student Visa Scandal
Student visa 'chaos' led to rush of illegal immigrants - Home News - UK - The Independent

As for the bit about "homegrown students", that is just typical of what we hear from inverted racists like yourself, any ridiculous implication about the British is fine. Maybe you have some facts to support it? Ever bothered to check who the lowest performers in the UK are? The products of previous immigration.

I actually know all of that, I was primarily questioning the use of the word 'beneficial.' If a student comes to the UK, does their studies and returns home and uses their newly found knowledge to benefit their own country then its not really that beneficial to the UK apart from the monies paid to the higher education center for those studies.

I've known about 'students' coming over and not returning for years but thats not the fault of the student but of the UK border controls and the higher education center and that needs to be stopped but you have to admit, that if you live in a tuliphole of a country then its a lot cheaper to get a student visa than pay a human trafficker a tulipload of money to get to a better existence?

As for homegrown students getting pissed up, well I only have the British press to rely on there, as in the photos of all the student do's that are shown at start and end of term, I never see gangs of Asian/African/other students running riot...Mind you the students I do know in the UK are a hard working bunch and doing very valuable courses which will benefit the country once they finish

[TestMangler]

Multi-use. Turkey baster cum dildo.

Actually, wouldn't the play-doh thing fit the bill?

Snigger

[mudskipper]

I'm not an expert on the internal workings of dildos but, from an engineering point of view, I'm seeing an interesting project combining the sperm bank deposits and the dildos into an 'all in one' solution. Now, where's my old tech drawing board and my catalogue of plumbing fittings ??

Multi-use. Turkey baster cum dildo.

Actually, wouldn't the play-doh thing fit the bill?

[Zero Liability]

Actually, leaving aside male lust, there is a big difference between performance of female and male migrants/minorities. Black women are among the highest performing in the UK. Not PC to say it, but not true of black males.

Men are always the real problem in crime, conflicts and misguided idealism. Ever noticed how the few females on CUK are never as biased or slanted in their political views as the rest of us?

Hate to say it as a male, but extermination of the male sex and production of solely female children by some genetic means would be a great plus for humanity.

Bit of a leap, don't you think?

[TestMangler]

He should set up a contract with the sperm banks and my idea of eliminating males will be off the ground.

I'm not an expert on the internal workings of dildos but, from an engineering point of view, I'm seeing an interesting project combining the sperm bank deposits and the dildos into an 'all in one' solution. Now, where's my old tech drawing board and my catalogue of plumbing fittings ??

[xoggoth]

Funnily enough, one of ms#3's pals has just started selling dildos online

He should set up a contract with the sperm banks and my idea of eliminating males will be off the ground.

[xoggoth]

Coding a website now in case you ever become prime minister

Hey! And according to my rigidly enforced laws I might be the only male! Even an ugly old fart like me might get a sh*g now and then!

PS Think my idea of exterminating males has been done before:

In some versions of the myth, no men were permitted to have sexual encounters or reside in Amazon country; but once a year, in order to prevent their race from dying out, they visited the Gargareans, a neighbouring tribe. The male children who were the result of these visits were either killed, sent back to their fathers or exposed in the wilderness to fend for themselves; the girls were kept and brought up by their mothers, and trained in agricultural pursuits, hunting, and the art of war.

Wouldn't it be great to be a caveman approx. 85 millions years BC? Any idea you had, like cleaning your toenails with a bit of twig, would be totally original and you could patent it, making a fortune for yourself and your descendants. What an idiot Og was not to think of patents!

[TestMangler]

Funnily enough, one of ms#3's pals has just started selling dildos online. Apparently he's doing really well with it.

Did it myself for a while back 12-13 years or so. Massive mark up, but loads of people were trying it around 2013/4 and sales just sort of faded away. Couldn't be arsed doing anything about it. It did though, cause two very interesting conversations, one with the wife when a massive dildo catalogue turned up at the house while I was working away and a second with a VAT inspector when I was being 'checked'.

[AtW]

Funnily enough, one of ms#3's pals has just started selling dildos online. Apparently he's doing really well with it.

Him - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjj8eMNxivM ???

[mudskipper]

And create a massive surge in dildo sales... Coding a website now in case you ever become prime minister

Funnily enough, one of ms#3's pals has just started selling dildos online. Apparently he's doing really well with it.