Well someone asked the question

[Zero Liability]

As was said, the points based system they are mooting would be applied going forwards. I think the media is desperately trying to twist this into a deportation scare story, even after Steven Woolfe clarified the party's stance on this. Besides, the other parties will just do whatever UKIP proposes anyway... They're not opposing this on grounds of principle but to try and rout the threat the party poses in response to an issue that they have neglected for ages, and which historically they have also campaigned on.

[vetran]

Sure, please remove us "bad" EU migrants, we who are christian and with similar mindset so there be enough room for the new British values, as depicted in the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOfHXRyFMjo

I dare ask if majority of the people here understand what is going on with the old continent, I certainly do not, and that is why I am terrified

Ah self interest

The truth about East European migration but statistics don't even show latest influx  | Daily Mail Online

So what do you propose we grant everyone currently here regardless of their background UK citizenship?
What about criminals on the run or likely to re-offend?
People that have committed serious offences while in the UK?
People involved in sex trafficking from Eastern Europe?
Professional beggars?
People who have been here for years and are on benefits?
Those who have married non UK citizens via a sham marriage or a real one allowing additional immigration?

A more difficult question is should there be a minimum contribution above which citizenship can be granted.
Or should we continue to allow the displacement of existing low end UK workers?

We are talking about millions of people who have arrived over the last 15 years its a massive amount of migration.


Or do we offer a transitional arrangement where people here legitimately can apply for citizenship and be judged on their possible contribution.

Immigration from outside the EU is another problem and we need to deal with it separately.

Radicalisation again is another problem and we need to tackle it head on.

[ProjectManager]

Sure, please remove us "bad" EU migrants, we who are christian and with similar mindset so there be enough room for the new British values, as depicted in the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOfHXRyFMjo

I dare ask if majority of the people here understand what is going on with the old continent, I certainly do not, and that is why I am terrified

[vetran]

The thing is, it's a policy they'd look to implement going forwards, with regards to criminals and benefit tourists, and not begin chucking out EU immigrants who are here legally, so why all the furore over comments Reckless was not even given time to clarify in front of a rather hostile audience is beyond me. Makes for good soundbites, I guess, but as Andrew Neil eventually squeezed out of the Labour woman... Labour is already trying to out-UKIP UKIP, like the Tories. So their blather about lack of policies etc., when they're now aping these policies, is all the more puzzling. I think the Australian points-based system makes sense.

almost certainly the audience was stuffed with rent a lefties.

Its funny when the masters realise the voters might vote them out.

[Zero Liability]

The thing is, it's a policy they'd look to implement going forwards, with regards to criminals and benefit tourists, and not begin chucking out EU immigrants who are here legally, so why all the furore over comments Reckless was not even given time to clarify in front of a rather hostile audience is beyond me. Makes for good soundbites, I guess, but as Andrew Neil eventually squeezed out of the Labour woman... Labour is already trying to out-UKIP UKIP, like the Tories. So their blather about lack of policies etc., when they're now aping these policies, is all the more puzzling. I think the Australian points-based system makes sense.

[vetran]

Steven Woolfe already clarified their policy on this when discussing the topic with Andrew Neil on the Beeb. Another non-story by a rather desperate rag that doesn't even pass muster for use as toilet paper. But as always, just throw in the word "suggested", then proceed to fabricating what you like. They should stick to their "UKIP causes cancer" type stories. Maybe house price cancer.

Their self-important audience can whine and jeer all it likes, the by-election results will speak for themselves. Can't even say they'll take the Labour and Tory airheads by surprise, because they know what to expect.

yep the Telegraph and the Granuid are softer and stronger for such a task.

Rochester by-election: row over Ukip immigration comments - Telegraph

Mark Reckless sparks immigration row on eve of Rochester byelection | UK news | The Guardian

[xoggoth]

As Vetran said. Not necessarily chuck them all out but consider each for citizenship on their merits. We should consider them favourably given the circumstances but we should not have an obligation to keep beggars or others of no obvious use.

Something else nobody has mentioned. I assume we will get UK waters back, not be obliged to hand perpetual rights to Spanish and French fishermen. We are either an EU member or a sovereign nation, there should be no in between, unless negotiated to mutual advantage.

[Zero Liability]

Steven Woolfe already clarified their policy on this when discussing the topic with Andrew Neil on the Beeb. Another non-story by a rather desperate rag that doesn't even pass muster for use as toilet paper. But as always, just throw in the word "suggested", then proceed to fabricating what you like. They should stick to their "UKIP causes cancer" type stories. Maybe house price cancer.

Their self-important audience can whine and jeer all it likes, the by-election results will speak for themselves. Can't even say they'll take the Labour and Tory airheads by surprise, because they know what to expect.

[Flashman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt5lF0YVitc

[TestMangler]

Would Farage not need a special exemption in law to allow his square head wife to stay in the country then ?

Or maybe that's the whole reason for UKIP's being, he wants rid of his Mrs.

[vetran]

and out again

Chaos as Ukip promises three million European migrants they can STAY in Britain if we leave the EU | Daily Mail Online

Chaos as Ukip promises three million European migrants they can STAY in Britain if we leave the EU
Ukip Rochester candidate Mark Reckless caused outrage during hustings
Suggested migrants who have lived in UK for years could be repatriated
Mr Reckless is currently on course to win Ukip's second seat this week
Comment met with jeers and critics slammed it as 'totally unacceptable'
But Ukip this morning insisted all three million EU workers could stay

Nigel you missed a trick, you could of said of course the question needs asking, no one had the guts to talk about immigration before we started.

I'm not sure we should forcibly repatriate them all but if we leave the free movement zone or even the EU then what do we do with the people already here ?

Do we automatically give them UK citizenship or do we give them a period to apply for UK citizenship? i prefer the latter as it will allow us to exclude certain individuals with a serious criminal past or with no record of supporting themselves.

[vetran]

Ukip candidate jeered for hinting EU arrivals could be repatriated | Daily Mail Online

Ukip's Mark Reckless jeered for suggesting EU migrants could be deported after a 'fixed period'
Ukip Rochester candidate Mark Reckless caused outrage during hustings
Suggested migrants who have lived in UK for years could be repatriated
Mr Reckless is currently on course to win Ukip's second seat this week
Comment met with jeers and critics slammed it as 'totally unacceptable'

Now what would you do with those that stay behind after we leave the EU (Heaven forfend) ?

Is it unfair to apply the same points system to existing EU migrants as you would have if you applied for residency when we have left?