Reply to: Blair: Cameron Will Win Election

[DodgyAgent]

3 minutes - Google, try it some time



See the word 'parody'?

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What I see is a man with a vested interest in being free to ply his trade across the entire European Union. To enjoy the lifestyle privilege bestowed upon him by conservative values i.e free markets within which to sell ones services at the best possible prices. i see a man who will selfishly defend to the hilt the mechanism that delivers his affluent and privileged lifestyle despite the misery that its policies pour onto the people of Europe (the EU ). I also see a hypocrite that enjoys the trappings of conservative free market values yet has the audacity to belittle the people that fight day to day to preserve the freedoms that he so enjoys.

Call it what you want but all I see in you is a self serving hypocrite

[darmstadt]

How long did you spend searching for that little lot of meaningless anecdotal "evidence"? or did you just look at the socialist worker website? .

3 minutes - Google, try it some time

Your twisted description of conservatism could actually be ascribed to the lifestyle of an IT contractor such as yourself

See the word 'parody'?

Remember, don't smear the messenger

[DodgyAgent]

Hugh Jackson- Tory councillor in North Tyneside – suggested euthanasia was a good way to reduce the costs of looking after disabled children - BBC NEWS | England | Tyne | Tory suspended in euthanasia row

Iain Duncan Smith – Tory Work and Pensions Secretary – quoted the Nazi slogan above the gates of Auschwitz Arbeit Mach Frei (work makes free) when he said about the government’s workfare programme that “work actually helps free people.”

Philip Davies – Tory MP for Shipley – thinks disabled people should take “a lower rate of pay” than the minimum wage to “help them get on their first rung of the jobs ladder” because that is the “real world we live in”. - BBC News - MP says minimum wage a hindrance to disabled jobseekers

Christopher Chope – Tory MP for Christchurch – regards people like waiters and waitresses as servants. Talking about a visit to a House of Commons restaurant he said: “The service was absolutely fantastic because there was three-to-one service – three servants for each person sitting down“. - An MP calls Commons staff 'servants'

Peter Chapman – a Tory councillor in Dorset – complained on Facebook about the “terminally slow (and bad) service from the bone idle bitches at Costa Dorchester” and said the waitresses: “all need a good beating”. - Resign call after Weymouth councillor's Facebook outburst (From Dorset Echo)

“The worst idlers in the world”: Five young Tory MPs hit out at "lazy Brits" - Conservative MPs hit out at "lazy Brits" who are "the worst idlers in the world


These Tory poverty claims will return to haunt them - These Tory poverty claims will return to haunt them | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian

In 2010 1 in 6 households are workless (Tory).
In 1996 1 in 5 (FIVE) households were workless (Labour).
In 1979 1 in 12 households were workless (Tory).

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Conservatism is the ideology of putting oneself before others, bullying those who are weaker than you, discriminating against those who look or behave differently from you. Conservatives give more to those who have the most and take from those who have the least. Conservatism is a very limited perspective that is initially self-serving, but ultimately contributes to the practitioner living an unfulfilled life, and harming all those that he/she comes into contact.

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How long did you spend searching for that little lot of meaningless anecdotal "evidence"? or did you just look at the socialist worker website? . Your twisted description of conservatism could actually be ascribed to the lifestyle of an IT contractor such as yourself

[darmstadt]

So you don't vote Labour either?

Is there actually any difference now, I can't really seem to see any. Blair merged into Cameron who will merge into his successor...

[darmstadt]

Where have you got that idea?

Hugh Jackson- Tory councillor in North Tyneside – suggested euthanasia was a good way to reduce the costs of looking after disabled children - BBC NEWS | England | Tyne | Tory suspended in euthanasia row

Iain Duncan Smith – Tory Work and Pensions Secretary – quoted the Nazi slogan above the gates of Auschwitz Arbeit Mach Frei (work makes free) when he said about the government’s workfare programme that “work actually helps free people.”

Philip Davies – Tory MP for Shipley – thinks disabled people should take “a lower rate of pay” than the minimum wage to “help them get on their first rung of the jobs ladder” because that is the “real world we live in”. - BBC News - MP says minimum wage a hindrance to disabled jobseekers

Christopher Chope – Tory MP for Christchurch – regards people like waiters and waitresses as servants. Talking about a visit to a House of Commons restaurant he said: “The service was absolutely fantastic because there was three-to-one service – three servants for each person sitting down“. - An MP calls Commons staff 'servants'

Peter Chapman – a Tory councillor in Dorset – complained on Facebook about the “terminally slow (and bad) service from the bone idle bitches at Costa Dorchester” and said the waitresses: “all need a good beating”. - Resign call after Weymouth councillor's Facebook outburst (From Dorset Echo)

“The worst idlers in the world”: Five young Tory MPs hit out at "lazy Brits" - Conservative MPs hit out at "lazy Brits" who are "the worst idlers in the world


These Tory poverty claims will return to haunt them - These Tory poverty claims will return to haunt them | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian

In 2010 1 in 6 households are workless (Tory).
In 1996 1 in 5 (FIVE) households were workless (Labour).
In 1979 1 in 12 households were workless (Tory).

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Conservatism is the ideology of putting oneself before others, bullying those who are weaker than you, discriminating against those who look or behave differently from you. Conservatives give more to those who have the most and take from those who have the least. Conservatism is a very limited perspective that is initially self-serving, but ultimately contributes to the practitioner living an unfulfilled life, and harming all those that he/she comes into contact.

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[Zero Liability]

If you mean the welfare minister, his comments were entirely reasonable, whatever Cameron etc may think. A lot of the apologies are cowardly PR.

[lilelvis2000]

Where have you got that idea?

Various statements by the various members of the Cons Party..who then have to "apologise" for their remarks! LOL Funny but not really heart warming stuff.

[Batcher]

That is all well and good but the will of the Scottish people was to remain part of Britain.

We were always going to stay part of Britain as we are part of the British Isles.

The UK OTOH is going to break up soon anyway so we will have our Independence

[minestrone]

Local branch SNP meetings since the Indyref have been full with lots of people declaring they were members of the Labour party but have decided to leave and join the SNP. The last recorded figures for Labour membership was around 13,000 about 5 years ago and they don't publish now whereas the SNP have 82,000 and growing. Lots of union members also have asked that their subs to the Labour party are withheld.

Of course, this means the SNP will change a bit as these ex-Labour people become active in the organisation and the SNP operate a 1 member 1 vote system. Labour in Scotland still have the college system of voting so the members don't really get a big say in the big decisions.

Recent polls for Westminster voting intentions put SNP on 43% and Labour on 26% which would mean a loss of 20 seats for Labour. If you couple that with UKIP taking voters from the Tories down south it will be interesting in May.

That is all well and good but the will of the Scottish people was to remain part of Britain.

[DodgyAgent]

A party that thinks all poor people are lazy is not a party I'm interested in. Great for economic thinking (mostly), bad for community cohesion.
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Where have you got that idea?

[vetran]

I never vote for toffs and posh knobs.

So you don't vote Labour either?

[lilelvis2000]

So you are driven by bigotry then.

A party that thinks all poor people are lazy is not a party I'm interested in. Great for economic thinking (mostly), bad for community cohesion.
Though Ed Miliband makes'em look brilliant. And that Ed chap beside him - total idiot. Surely they could find someone better.

[Batcher]

Have Labour got little to fear from UKIP?

I think they will lose votes to them, especially in the north of England.

[Doggy Styles]

Recent polls for Westminster voting intentions put SNP on 43% and Labour on 26% which would mean a loss of 20 seats for Labour. If you couple that with UKIP taking voters from the Tories down south it will be interesting in May.

Have Labour got little to fear from UKIP?

[Batcher]

That's an interesting perspective Batcher.

I do wonder if there will be a massive anti Labour vote in Scotland, as you've pointed out there's a potential reason for it to happen, let's see (hope) if it materialises at an actual election.

Removing 30+ labour seats in Westminster would have a fun effect, with any luck it would prevent a Labour majority which is desirable at least to me

Local branch SNP meetings since the Indyref have been full with lots of people declaring they were members of the Labour party but have decided to leave and join the SNP. The last recorded figures for Labour membership was around 13,000 about 5 years ago and they don't publish now whereas the SNP have 82,000 and growing. Lots of union members also have asked that their subs to the Labour party are withheld.

Of course, this means the SNP will change a bit as these ex-Labour people become active in the organisation and the SNP operate a 1 member 1 vote system. Labour in Scotland still have the college system of voting so the members don't really get a big say in the big decisions.

Recent polls for Westminster voting intentions put SNP on 43% and Labour on 26% which would mean a loss of 20 seats for Labour. If you couple that with UKIP taking voters from the Tories down south it will be interesting in May.