Reply to: Scots Property Tax: 10% above £250k

[Doggy Styles]

I meant progressive as in forward looking rather than in step changes.

But I think you knew that

Every policy-change is forward-looking. It is the nature of time. So 'progressive' actually means feck-all.

[minestrone]

It's a 'new' tax because it's the first tax to be levied by a Scottish Parliament since 1707.

It is a new name for a tax we have had for a long time.

The SNP would have you believe that they invented the wheel if they thought it would gain votes.

[Batcher]

This is nothing more than simply a rejigging of stamp duty bands and percentages. And on the whole, I think it's quite a reasonable adjustment - removing the cliff edge changes is a good one.

But why does it need to be introduced as a "new tax"

Even the lab/lib "mansion tax" doesn't need to be a new tax at all - just add another proportional band which kicks in at £2m on the council tax.

It's a 'new' tax because it's the first tax to be levied by a Scottish Parliament since 1707.

[jemb]

I meant progressive as in forward looking rather than in step changes.

But I think you knew that

The SNP are not progressive - the best they can do is ape the Lib and Lab in a variation of the mansion tax.
Income tax is the best way to 'progressively' and fairly raise taxes. An arbitrary tax on property makes little sense other than to raise taxes on the perceived rich rather than explicitly raising income tax.

If they had any b@lls they'd raise income tax, explain that the extra money will be directed to hospitals and schools and then go to the polls with it at the next Scottish elections. They won't, because, in the end, they are (nearly) as sh1t as the other parties.

[vetran]

This is nothing more than simply a rejigging of stamp duty bands and percentages. And on the whole, I think it's quite a reasonable adjustment - removing the cliff edge changes is a good one.

But why does it need to be introduced as a "new tax"

Even the lab/lib "mansion tax" doesn't need to be a new tax at all - just add another proportional band which kicks in at £2m on the council tax.

would prefer 1/5 million, 1Million, 10million.

[centurian]

This is nothing more than simply a rejigging of stamp duty bands and percentages. And on the whole, I think it's quite a reasonable adjustment - removing the cliff edge changes is a good one.

But why does it need to be introduced as a "new tax"

Even the lab/lib "mansion tax" doesn't need to be a new tax at all - just add another proportional band which kicks in at £2m on the council tax.

[minestrone]

Been reading #hopeoverfear on twitter.

The delusion is hilarious.

Also Tommy Sheridan has been asking for donations to be sent to his house.

[Batcher]

It's hardly progressive, it's a massive hike.
Totally bonkers, wtf they couldn't just put the tax on income (truly progressive) just shows that the SNP resort to gesture politics just like everyone else. It's disappointing, but not surprising.

I meant progressive as in forward looking rather than in step changes.

But I think you knew that

[jemb]

I think this property tax is fair and progressive. You can't see that because you are a unionist who hates everything the SNP does. If Labour or the Tories came up with this idea you would be saying how great it was.

SNP membership has just gone over 80,000 and a rally in George Square on Sunday is expecting at least 6,000 people.

It's hardly progressive, it's a massive hike.
Totally bonkers, wtf they couldn't just put the tax on income (truly progressive) just shows that the SNP resort to gesture politics just like everyone else. It's disappointing, but not surprising.

[Zero Liability]

Well it's no surprise that the "hate the rich" (read: middle class/anyone not on benefits) champagne socialist crowd proposed it. Even within Labour there is strong dissent over it, though, so it may just remain a lofty pipedream. This country has an addiction to property bubbles, after all, and I am sure Labour will want one of its own come GE.

I remember Red Ed talking "tough" on the banks, only to go crawling back later, sweet talking them.

[Batcher]

Mansion Tax was mooted by both Labour and LibDems and would be an annual charge. The new tax in Scotland only applies when the house is bought.

Labour leader Ed Miliband said that owners of properties worth more than £2m would face an annual charge.

It is a similar idea to the proposal outlined in the Liberal Democrat's 2010 general election manifesto that was restated at their latest conference

Labour leader Ed Miliband said that owners of properties worth more than £2m would face an annual charge.

[minestrone]

I think this property tax is fair and progressive. You can't see that because you are a unionist who hates everything the SNP does. If Labour or the Tories came up with this idea you would be saying how great it was.

SNP membership has just gone over 80,000 and a rally in George Square on Sunday is expecting at least 6,000 people.

Well I am one of the 55 and will be playing the Xbox all Sunday.

[Batcher]

Anyway, since when has the mansion tax been an English plan? It is a fooked up plan by a desperate labour party who are on the same 'tax the rich' populist sheet as the SNP.

The LibDems are for a mansion tax as well. Is it not part of EVEL? The new tax is devolved to Scotland so a mansion tax is only for the regions of England.

[minestrone]

Anyway, since when has the mansion tax been an English plan? It is a fooked up plan by a desperate labour party who are on the same 'tax the rich' populist sheet as the SNP.

[Batcher]

Nope it was you but I can't be added trawling through your mince to find the post.

It is not an insignificant hotel, I have stayed at it, probably the biggest on Edinburgh and at a reasonable standard as well. I personally know of 2 people who had referendum clauses attached to house sales.

I know nationalist politics is heavily devoted to ignorance, you offer no alternative yourself.

I think this property tax is fair and progressive. You can't see that because you are a unionist who hates everything the SNP does. If Labour or the Tories came up with this idea you would be saying how great it was.

SNP membership has just gone over 80,000 and a rally in George Square on Sunday is expecting at least 6,000 people.