Reply to: F'sticks - Parking Charge!

[darmstadt]

Go back an buy a ticket that covers the time you were in the lot.

How?

[SpontaneousOrder]

Exactly my point! But as they are not willing to quantify their losses (it must exclude all unrelated costs such as staff and other fixed costs) they effectively don't have a case to charge you anymore than what was asked if you in the first place and even that is debatable!

I won't argue with that. Although Dhoog mentioned a deterrent. I'm of two minds, but I think in this case no deterrent is needed - it seems like a situation where everyone should get what's owed to them, rather tun a situation where someone needs to be punished for something.

[d000hg]

Go back an buy a ticket that covers the time you were in the lot.

How?

[RSoles]

[vwdan]

Dear Dan,

As a gesture of goodwill the PCN will be cancelled and we will waive the parking fee due to your continued customer. In future please ensure that you purchase a valid ticket/ringgo session prior to leaving your car parked.

Kind Regards,

Easy!

[vwdan]

Not private car parks I'm afraid. Private car parks have their own legislation and they are not to be treated the same as council car parks.

MSE (Private Parking Tickets: fight unfair charges - Money Saving Expert) says:

It is important to understand that with private parking tickets it's the owner of the car, not the driver, who's liable. Therefore parking companies will often send a 'Notice to Keeper' to the owner of the car. This is a formal parking charge notice sent to the registered keeper of the vehicle.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I already said that they are only entitled to their losses while you occupied the parking space, and the costs involved in recovering those losses.

Exactly my point! But as they are not willing to quantify their losses (it must exclude all unrelated costs such as staff and other fixed costs) they effectively don't have a case to charge you anymore than what was asked if you in the first place and even that is debatable!

[SpontaneousOrder]

They are indeed a business but so are many other cowboys....

I have done plenty of research on this issue so I'm afraid you are the one who doesn't know what they are talking about. I also just won a case with popla (look them up in case you don't know).

All they are sending u is a parking invoice, yes there is a car park but they are unable to justify charging 60 let alone 100 pounds in a court of law. They could make a case for say 15 or 20 pounds at best.

I already said that they are only entitled to their losses while you occupied the parking space, and the costs involved in recovering those losses.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I'm under the impression that some of this has changed now - when they banned clamping, they made the registered keeper responsible for parking in the same way as they would be responsible for a traffic offence.

Not private car parks I'm afraid. Private car parks have their own legislation and they are not to be treated the same as council car parks.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

F'sticks - Parking Charge!

They're a business - and a business that average Joe relies on frequently I assume you don't use car parks then?

They are indeed a business but so are many other cowboys....

I have done plenty of research on this issue so I'm afraid you are the one who doesn't know what they are talking about. I also just won a case with popla (look them up in case you don't know).

All they are sending u is a parking invoice, yes there is a car park but they are unable to justify charging 60 let alone 100 pounds in a court of law. They could make a case for say 15 or 20 pounds at best.

Also do u not find it a bit stupid to suggest I might not use car parks when I already mentioned I have fought and won against these cowboys?

[SpontaneousOrder]

They have no right to send u the letter, ask who was driving or even to demand the money. They are cowboys

They're a business - and a business that average Joe relies on frequently I assume you don't use car parks then?

[vwdan]

Photograph of the car does not prove who was driving.... It's all a ploy. Go to money saving expert. There is a 100% success rate for appealing against Genuine pre estimate of loss.

They have no right to send u the letter, ask who was driving or even to demand the money. They are cowboys

I'm under the impression that some of this has changed now - when they banned clamping, they made the registered keeper responsible for parking in the same way as they would be responsible for a traffic offence.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I would have thought a photograph of your car at the crime scene would be as good as an admission?

Photograph of the car does not prove who was driving.... It's all a ploy. Go to money saving expert. There is a 100% success rate for appealing against Genuine pre estimate of loss.

They have no right to send u the letter, ask who was driving or even to demand the money. They are cowboys

[mudskipper]

I got off on a parking fine, but the signage was ambiguous - I genuinely thought I was allowed to park there. Still, it felt good when the appeal went in my favour.

[vwdan]

Good luck Your letter is great.

I just like a fight with "the man" to be honest!