Reply to: Why not death by firing squad?

[xoggoth]

read about it? It was you wasn't it?

[xoggoth]

How do you know?

From the circumstances of so much violent crime in the news.

Domestic crimes where nobody else is in the house. Young men stabbing each on crowded streets, stations or shopping malls with dozens of witnesses and CCTV cameras. Daftest I saw was that soldier who blew up his wife with a hand grenade. Let's see, who has access to hand grenades? That's a hard one!. If most murderers gave it a moment's thought they would know they had no chance of getting away with it.

The carefully planned murder, with real attention to concealing the crime or devising false alibis, seems to be the exception.

[EternalOptimist]

There was a controversy a few years ago when one of the states (Texas I think) couldnt get the lethal drugs anywhere in the ISA, so a Britsh firm supplied the stuff.
sent it via the Royal Mail iirc

[KentPhilip]

it is clear that consequences rarely enter their minds so deterrence is unlikely to be a good reason.

How do you know?

[BrilloPad]

What's wrong with dancing the Newgate jig?

Too little rope and its a slow painful death. Too much and its decapitation.

[Jubber]

What's wrong with dancing the Newgate jig?

[BrilloPad]

I suspect that would hurt like feck.

We should ask RH's hamster...

[RetSet]

Probably quickest, least messy method, if they have to do it, would be a microwave oven.

I suspect that would hurt like feck.

[xoggoth]

Probably quickest, least messy method, if they have to do it, would be a microwave oven.

[tractor]

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Yep, Vice did a documentary on it when (from memory)Wisconsin were thinking on bringing it in. It's horrific - I think they came to the conclusion that it's not used to protect the executioners & witnesses from distress, rather than the chap facing the bullet.

Which is why they used to give one of the squad a blank, so that they all might not have fired the killing shot.

[xoggoth]

Civilised nations should not be doing it. It isn't as though the numbers involved make any difference to the prison population and, when you look at the details of most violent crime, it is clear that consequences rarely enter their minds so deterrence is unlikely to be a good reason.

[CloudWalker]

nitrogen asphyxiation FTW!

[GazCol]

You can botch a death by firing squad.
I once had the misfortune to watch a clip from the Executions [1995] [DVD]
And the guy at the end took ages to die.

Yep, Vice did a documentary on it when (from memory)Wisconsin were thinking on bringing it in. It's horrific - I think they came to the conclusion that it's not used to protect the executioners & witnesses from distress, rather than the chap facing the bullet.

[CloudWalker]

You can botch a death by firing squad.
I once had the misfortune to watch a clip from the Executions [1995] [DVD]
And the guy at the end took ages to die.

[NickFitz]

My understanding was that the chemicals were produced in Europe and the EU put an export ban to the US on them.
You can get anything on the darknet so they must be available osmewhere

When the State takes it upon itself to kill someone in cold blood, it must attempt to disguise its barbarity by giving it all the trappings of solemn legal process. Buying dodgy pills illegally from some Chinese website doesn't really fit in with that process. They can't claim the moral high ground if they have to resort to illegal activity.