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[Troll]

It's not 10% either way, it's 10% over, 0% under.

For some strange reason, most people take the mention of an allowed leeway in speedometer accuracy to be equivalent to an allowed transgression in actual speed.

If your speedo was only ever 10% over then there would not be an issue as your recorded speed of 33 would actually equate to 30mph and therefore legal

However if your speedo was 10% under then your indicated 30mph would actually be 33 - or have I missed your point?

I suppose the simple answer would be a traffic management system to auto limit car speeds to 30 mph within a zone -radio signal to cars ECU and of course limiting all cars by law to a maximum speed of 70mph - justifiable on the grounds of 1: Safety & 2:Emissions -I wonder why that’s not on the statute books ?

[BlasterBates]

...ok then maybe its the calibration techniques then.

[EternalOptimist]

The new generation of radar devices are that accurate, unfortunately, its not only in the UK they've cut the tolerances, which used to be 10%, it seems to have gone down to 2%, so they probably clocked it at 33/34 subtract the 2% and do you for 31.

b0llocks
radar has always been accurate, it cants be anything but. It's the calibration of the device that matters. Like a set of bathroom scales, you need to move the little dially thing so the scales read zero when nothing is on them.

[expat]

If you have a GPS map like TomTom etc they usually have an option to show your current speed. Mine shows a consistant +5mph discrepancy between it and the speedometer in the car. i.e. According to the speedo I'm travelling 5 mph faster than I actually am.

That's to be expected, since your speedo is allowed to over-read but not to under-read. Naturally the manufacturers pitch at somewhere inside the tolerance zone.

[BlasterBates]

If i was snapped doing 31 I would definetly take it to court where I would demand to see the calibration certificates

The new generation of radar devices are that accurate, unfortunately, its not only in the UK they've cut the tolerances, which used to be 10%, it seems to have gone down to 2%, so they probably clocked it at 33/34 subtract the 2% and do you for 31.

[Ardesco]

Hmm i wonder if GPS logs your the speed of your journey, and if so if it would stand up in court?

I shall have to fiddle with my PDA GPS and see

[Flubster]

i.e. According to the speedo I'm travelling 5 mph faster than I actually am.

Have you calibrated your GPS device?

[DaveB]

It's not 10% either way, it's 10% over, 0% under.

For some strange reason, most people take the mention of an allowed leeway in speedometer accuracy to be equivalent to an allowed transgression in actual speed.

If you have a GPS map like TomTom etc they usually have an option to show your current speed. Mine shows a consistant +5mph discrepancy between it and the speedometer in the car. i.e. According to the speedo I'm travelling 5 mph faster than I actually am.

I've yet to have the guts to test this against a speed camera

[expat]

In principle it should - although your assumption is that car speedometers are 100% accurate ( the reason why police cars have 2 speeds = 1 standard issue & 1 calibrated), when I were a lad there was a 10% margin of error on speedos either way, and plod would only prosecute you if you were 10% over...which seemed a pretty fair & just way of working.

It's not 10% either way, it's 10% over, 0% under.

For some strange reason, most people take the mention of an allowed leeway in speedometer accuracy to be equivalent to an allowed transgression in actual speed.

[Ardesco]

In principle it should - although your assumption is that car speedometers are 100% accurate ( the reason why police cars have 2 speeds = 1 standard issue & 1 calibrated), when I were a lad there was a 10% margin of error on speedos either way, and plod would only prosecute you if you were 10% over...which seemed a pretty fair & just way of working.

Now in this fecked up country we are prosecuted for any transgression, auto fined for any lateness in submitting documentation and seem to spend most of our lives watching over our shoulders.


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If i was snapped doing 31 I would definetly take it to court where I would demand to see the calibration certificates, argue that on most speedo's you are unlikely to be able to accuratly tell the difference between 30 and 31, argue for a 5% leeway for speedo error and also find out what the margin for error for the scamera's is (i'm sure they can be 1 MPH out as they are known to not bee 100% accurate, it just hasn't been provd in court yet).

[Andyw]

Probably. Currently my ex (who I have tried to show the difference between salary & dividend) wants 99% of my salary and 30% of my dividends. Oh yeah - and a whole bunch of cash from the business...

...gotta laugh...

you won't be ! believe me !

[boredsenseless]

Because, they want over the top payments, like £160 per week for each kid. Only, if its the goverment making the payments then the payments are ten quid a week but if it you then, well, we'll just have as much as you can afford matey. oh BTW my son is 18 so im talking about friends.

people dont mind paying for their kids, just not silly amounts that leave them skint putting a strain on their current relationship !

wake up and smell the coffee !

Well given that they tend to cost more than that to cloth, feed, house and entertain it doesn't seem unreasonable

[Emperor Dalek]

A couple of thousand in cash and a return ticket from Moscow will solve your problem.

[ratewhore]

oh dear ! you're going to get hammered !

Probably. Currently my ex (who I have tried to show the difference between salary & dividend) wants 99% of my salary and 30% of my dividends. Oh yeah - and a whole bunch of cash from the business...

...gotta laugh...

[Andyw]

Its definately not worker.

What does yours stand for then ?