Reply to: What am I doing wrong ?

[malvolio]

More or less how I do it. I need to get niche stuff into LinkedIn as well though because I am getting interesting approaches from pimps based on my profile.

Mine, such as they are, are listed as specialities in the summary profile, but the buzzwords are scattered through the Experience list. The pimps will use simple keyword searching, and LinkedIn's search will look at the whole profile entry so it's not that important where you put them, but having a quick list in the profile means at least everyone will see them.

[Old Greg]

Think about what you are trying to achieve here

Your LinkedIn profile is not about your technical skills, it's about what you do in general terms and what value to add to the client (think "I have delivered", not "I can do"). The techie words go in the "career" history bit, but you only need to mention them once since that's how the search engine works.

Your CV should start with a two part summary of who you are. The first half of that is your LinkedIn profile, the second half is why you are so suitable for the specific gig in question. You then follow that with some relevant mini-case histories and then the list of one-liner roles you have filled going back forever.

More or less how I do it. I need to get niche stuff into LinkedIn as well though because I am getting interesting approaches from pimps based on my profile.

[malvolio]

It is tricky.

Think about what you are trying to achieve here

Your LinkedIn profile is not about your technical skills, it's about what you do in general terms and what value to add to the client (think "I have delivered", not "I can do"). The techie words go in the "career" history bit, but you only need to mention them once since that's how the search engine works.

Your CV should start with a two part summary of who you are. The first half of that is your LinkedIn profile, the second half is why you are so suitable for the specific gig in question. You then follow that with some relevant mini-case histories and then the list of one-liner roles you have filled going back forever.

[SarahL2012]

I agree with others about getting your CV reviewed. I had 4 sent to me recently for someone to do a risk review post systems implementation and 2 of the CVs were shocking. The agent assured me that they were both up to doing the job, but you couldn't tell that from what was written down - so no interview.

[Old Greg]

How do position your linkedin profile against the different CVs? Just interested like.

It is tricky.

[SueEllen]

Have some friends look over it and see what they think - even better if they are also contractors, as they know what finds them work.

There are people on this board who will review CVs as they are involved in recruitment either due to their role on IT projects or because they are a pimp.

1. Take out all personal information i.e. name, phone numbers, company names, university name, locations etc.

2. Post on a free site, talk to a few people via PM where you can share the link with them.

As well as linkedin if there are any face to face meetup groups near you for an appropriate technology go along and get known. You should do this even if you are in a contract.

[TheFaQQer]

Perhaps the content of your CV is fine - great even. But does it make someone want to pick it up and read it? Maybe consider getting your CV reviewed.

Have some friends look over it and see what they think - even better if they are also contractors, as they know what finds them work.

Brush up the LinkedIn profile - join some groups as well and see if there is work out there. I got my current gig because someone I worked with 10 years back saw I was available on LinkedIn and dropped me a line. I'd not been in touch in that time, he just sold me to the project as "he was pretty good ten years back when I worked with him, can't imagine he's any worse now!" and I started a week later.

You may need to be flexible on location - it's not ideal, but if there is no work near you, then you need to go find it.

Keep updating the CV and upload it regularly to various jobs boards. Even minor tweaks - some systems default to only showing recently updated CVs.

If there has been a significant gap, then you might need to think about how to fill that - training, skilling up, writing a blog, travelling... All valid answers - if the gap is too big and you have no history of contracting, then agenst will ditch you.

Finally - if you want to come and cable up my house, there's £50 in it for you

[way2contra]

Thanks for the reply MaryPoppins and Old Greg. Working on improvising my CV now, am hoping it would make a difference.

[Antman]

I a wide range of experience in a single sector (healthcare). I have multiple CVs that I use as a basis to tailor for particular gigs:

- IT PM
- IT business change / implementation
- IT business / systems analysis
- Non-IT clinical service transformation

Each CV is truthful but the emphasis is such that the first and last CVs tell very different stories. When I am going for a non-IT clinical service transformation gig, they have no interest in my data migration experience.

So if you think it's worth it... have a hard look at your CV and write a Voice CV and a Data CV.

If you are looking to be phoned by pimps, are you refreshing your CVs on job boards every week. That used to be effective, but things may have moved on.

I have had several approaches from pimps via LinkedIn, particularly for niche contracts. In any case, sort your LinkedIn profile out and list any niche products or industries. In addition to being approached, I applied for a job board gig last week sending a CV and within six hours the MD had looked at my linkedin profile (and I don't include a link on my CV. I have a phone interview on Friday. I don't know whether my LinkedIn profile helped, but why was he looking if not to inform his decision making.

Have you tapped your contacts - from gigs but also from permie days? Keep in touch with them and let them know you're available and you may strike lucky.

Good luck!

How do position your linkedin profile against the different CVs? Just interested like.

[Old Greg]

Thanks for the reply Kevpuk. I am into Cisco networks completely so any gig that needs anything else apart from Cisco is straight-away ruled out. With that said, there are still apparently abundant opportunities within the Cisco realm and I am pretty good with both Cisco Voice (i.e UC) and Data with equally certified in the 2 fields. I did initially restrict myself geographically but have now started considering nationwide roles to no avail. Rate-wise I am very much into expectations but I must say that I do not even get called out to ask for my expectations so I don't think rate is an issue here.
I do have tailored variations of CVs but considering that I have worked equally in Cisco Voice and Data, it is a little hard for me to emphasize one over the other. I also have done varied roles in my 12 years of experience so I can't present myself as an expert of being in one role. But I think you've given me 1 thing to re-think upon so I would now be looking to tweak my CV a little further .
The only thing I don't do is follow-up by phone to an agent. I have tried it though and have either been straightaway directed to their voicemail without getting a callback or have been told off with excuses such as - you don't completely match the skillset, you haven't worked on so and so thing , sometimes the rates etc. etc. Is it really that critical to call up an agent after applying for a job. I was of the opinion that if the JD matches my skills and expectations, the agent should ideally call me up to discuss the prospects. Does that not show up my desperation ( which by the way I am ) to get myself a gig ?

I a wide range of experience in a single sector (healthcare). I have multiple CVs that I use as a basis to tailor for particular gigs:

- IT PM
- IT business change / implementation
- IT business / systems analysis
- Non-IT clinical service transformation

Each CV is truthful but the emphasis is such that the first and last CVs tell very different stories. When I am going for a non-IT clinical service transformation gig, they have no interest in my data migration experience.

So if you think it's worth it... have a hard look at your CV and write a Voice CV and a Data CV.

If you are looking to be phoned by pimps, are you refreshing your CVs on job boards every week. That used to be effective, but things may have moved on.

I have had several approaches from pimps via LinkedIn, particularly for niche contracts. In any case, sort your LinkedIn profile out and list any niche products or industries. In addition to being approached, I applied for a job board gig last week sending a CV and within six hours the MD had looked at my linkedin profile (and I don't include a link on my CV. I have a phone interview on Friday. I don't know whether my LinkedIn profile helped, but why was he looking if not to inform his decision making.

Have you tapped your contacts - from gigs but also from permie days? Keep in touch with them and let them know you're available and you may strike lucky.

Good luck!

[MaryPoppins]

Thanks for the reply Kevpuk. I am into Cisco networks completely so any gig that needs anything else apart from Cisco is straight-away ruled out. With that said, there are still apparently abundant opportunities within the Cisco realm and I am pretty good with both Cisco Voice (i.e UC) and Data with equally certified in the 2 fields. I did initially restrict myself geographically but have now started considering nationwide roles to no avail. Rate-wise I am very much into expectations but I must say that I do not even get called out to ask for my expectations so I don't think rate is an issue here.
I do have tailored variations of CVs but considering that I have worked equally in Cisco Voice and Data, it is a little hard for me to emphasize one over the other. I also have done varied roles in my 12 years of experience so I can't present myself as an expert of being in one role. But I think you've given me 1 thing to re-think upon so I would now be looking to tweak my CV a little further .
The only thing I don't do is follow-up by phone to an agent. I have tried it though and have either been straightaway directed to their voicemail without getting a callback or have been told off with excuses such as - you don't completely match the skillset, you haven't worked on so and so thing , sometimes the rates etc. etc. Is it really that critical to call up an agent after applying for a job. I was of the opinion that if the JD matches my skills and expectations, the agent should ideally call me up to discuss the prospects. Does that not show up my desperation ( which by the way I am ) to get myself a gig ?

Perhaps the content of your CV is fine - great even. But does it make someone want to pick it up and read it? Maybe consider getting your CV reviewed.

I never chase agents. Pointless in my opinion.

[way2contra]

Give yourself a little treat? Naughty boy.

qh

I was only talking about having a couple of beers. Not sure who is being naughty here

[quackhandle]

Give yourself a little treat? Naughty boy.

qh

[way2contra]

Thanks for the reply Kevpuk. I am into Cisco networks completely so any gig that needs anything else apart from Cisco is straight-away ruled out. With that said, there are still apparently abundant opportunities within the Cisco realm and I am pretty good with both Cisco Voice (i.e UC) and Data with equally certified in the 2 fields. I did initially restrict myself geographically but have now started considering nationwide roles to no avail. Rate-wise I am very much into expectations but I must say that I do not even get called out to ask for my expectations so I don't think rate is an issue here.
I do have tailored variations of CVs but considering that I have worked equally in Cisco Voice and Data, it is a little hard for me to emphasize one over the other. I also have done varied roles in my 12 years of experience so I can't present myself as an expert of being in one role. But I think you've given me 1 thing to re-think upon so I would now be looking to tweak my CV a little further .
The only thing I don't do is follow-up by phone to an agent. I have tried it though and have either been straightaway directed to their voicemail without getting a callback or have been told off with excuses such as - you don't completely match the skillset, you haven't worked on so and so thing , sometimes the rates etc. etc. Is it really that critical to call up an agent after applying for a job. I was of the opinion that if the JD matches my skills and expectations, the agent should ideally call me up to discuss the prospects. Does that not show up my desperation ( which by the way I am ) to get myself a gig ?

[kevpuk]

<snip>...I give myself a little treat if I get even 1 call in a week....<snip>

Aside from the obvious need to snigger at the above part.....

Seriously, though, probably need more details on what you are doing.
For example, do you have a very specific niche you are targetting?
Do you restrict your searches to a limited geographic area?
Do you have tailored variations of C.V.s to send out and follow-up by phone to Agent(s)?
Do you have difficult to match rate expectations?