Reply to: Overdue invoices and uncooperative agencies

[kal]

ESPECIALLY the ones that are mis-representing clients through embellished JDs and putting out ghost contracts on Jobswerve-etc

God this industry would be so much better if people weren't playing so many stupid little games.

Problem is that you can count the good ones on one hand (even if you had 2 of your digits missing!). There are so many wide boys and failed bookies/estate-agents/car-salesmen in the recruitment industry that it makes job hunting much harder than it needs to be.

I had a request from via LinkedIn from a recruitment agent just so he could hassle me to see if there were any roles going at my current ClientCo he could fill, looked at his profile and he had been a pimp for about 5 minutes (previous role was working as a bailiff! ), now why in the world would he expect me to do his job for him, if there we're any roles going I would put them onto <plug>Contractor Club</plug>!!

[Boo]

Got a response from the agency. One word.

Paid

Checked my account. Full amount for original invoice (including those 2 days) is banked, minus the late payment fees (which I didn't care about).

Thank you all VERY MUCH!

Result !

Great news, congrats. Just shows that the guff spouted here by the apologistas for the slimeballs in the house aren't always correct in their knee-jerk responses about what is owed under contracts, eh ?

Well done,

Boo

[d000hg]

I think that is one agency you will never work through again.

Sounds like he wouldn't want to anyway.

[NDawg]

Well done, agencies need to be brought down a peg or 2...

ESPECIALLY the ones that are mis-representing clients through embellished JDs and putting out ghost contracts on Jobswerve-etc

God this industry would be so much better if people weren't playing so many stupid little games.

[Wanderer]

Plenty of pimps covering the market. I knew the second I started pursuing this I was probably blacklisted with the agency. Just glad that I got my money.

"Go hard or go home", y'know?

Good result. Yeah, you may have burned your bridges with that agent but there are plenty more so sod them. You got paid which is the main thing.

[kal]

Plenty of pimps covering the market. I knew the second I started pursuing this I was probably blacklisted with the agency. Just glad that I got my money.

"Go hard or go home", y'know?

Well done, agencies need to be brought down a peg or 2...

[NDawg]

I think that is one agency you will never work through again.

Plenty of pimps covering the market. I knew the second I started pursuing this I was probably blacklisted with the agency. Just glad that I got my money.

"Go hard or go home", y'know?

[eek]

Got a response from the agency. One word.

Paid

Checked my account. Full amount for original invoice (including those 2 days) is banked, minus the late payment fees (which I didn't care about).

Thank you all VERY MUCH!

I think that is one agency you will never work through again.

[d000hg]

Nice.

[NDawg]

Got a response from the agency. One word.

Paid

Checked my account. Full amount for original invoice (including those 2 days) is banked, minus the late payment fees (which I didn't care about).

Thank you all VERY MUCH!

[NDawg]

BACS transfer, please.

I sent them this back:

As stipulated on the contract between myself and AGENCY and as verbally agreed with PIMP, invoices are paid every 2 weeks when submitted for time worked. AGENCY became late payers the day after the invoice was due as payment had not been received. You have been charged the statutory minimum of £70.00 due to the size of the unpaid debt in addition to £4.75 at the standard interest rate of 8.5%. This is in line with the Late Payment of Commercial Debts (Interest) Act. That sum is now due and will only be waived if the original invoice submitted is paid in full today. Failure to comply will render the late payment amount enforceable and AGENCY will be subject to further fees as time goes on.

CLIENTCO keeps records of users on-site at the IS Service Desk through the Avaya phone operator system. This will confirm the days that I was on-site with CLIENTCO and the information is easily obtained through reporting.

As a professional contractor, I expect invoices are paid when due. A 1-2 day delay as a result of payroll processing issues is understandable. 10 is not.

I have given AGENCY multiple chances to follow this up with the client, going so far as to provide you with e-mail evidence that CLIENTCO and MICROMANAGER in particular have been obstructive with regards to finalization of the contract. Your failure to adequately do so is why we have reached this point.

Again, please render payment immediately to avoid further action.

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So far, no response

[TheFaQQer]

Reply 3: Just out of interest at what point did you decide that we were late payers

The moment that you were late paying the invoice was the point at which I decided you were late payers. The invoice date was XX-APR-2013 with terms of XX days, meaning that payment was due on XX-APR-2013. When that date passed without payment, you became late payers.

and how did you work out the late payment amount?

By calculating the legal penalty and interest rate as per the relevant legislation. This provides for a £40, £70 or £100 fee for late payment depending on the size of the debt, plus interest at an APR of 8.5%.

Also please explain how we are meant to pay you

BACS transfer, please.

when we have no idea how many days that you should be invoicing us for?

The invoice is for the period worked.

Please bare with us in this matter and hopefully it will all be resolved today as we want to get this sorted out just as much as you do.

bear

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Ignoring the two days issue, you are in the right here and they are in the wrong. They are late paying the invoice, and you are perfectly within your rights to demand the late payment fee - you may have been better off getting the invoice paid first and then invoicing for late payment, though.

[NDawg]

Why are they moaning that they dont know the amount? You have invoiced them have you?

Did you really show up at client site and kick off? LOL. And also at agency?

Nope. Sounds like they aint happy with you.

I don't mess about when it comes to money. Told them they had 45 minutes to phone clientco and get confirmation to release payment else I'd go down there personally and get confirmation myself. They didn't get confirm in time. I went down to speak with SDM who conveniently was in meetings for the rest of the day. It didn't achieve anything but at least illustrated a point. I figured Dunning would take a little too long.

They're moaning probably because they want to keep clientco in their good books or something. I dunno.

[psychocandy]

Why are they moaning that they dont know the amount? You have invoiced them...

Did you really show up at client site and kick off? LOL. And also at agency?

Nope. Sounds like they aint happy with you.

[NDawg]

Why do you think it entitles him to bill for two weeks? I see the following..



Just because he has a notice period it does not mean he is entitled to bill it. He bills for what he works which is 8 days, not 10 as pointed out by TF

NLUK, TBH I'm pushing my luck with the additional 2 days. The contract I have with the agency is pretty much in my favor with regards to termination and notice periods. I was notified on the Tuesday of the week that the contract would be coming to a close on that Friday as agreed between the agency and clientco, which I was happy to work out as a professional courtesy. Had the service desk manager not decided to take things into his own hands and cut me on Wednesday instead of waiting till Friday, the 2 days would be a non-issue.

I don't need them, but I'm billing for them out of principle.

Remember they are your customers now, not work colleagues......

Agreed. Still wiping out those last small traces of permie mentality over here.