Reply to: Client sent me home and going to terminate my contract

[northernladuk]

Least that sorted the issue with your B&B

[contractor0118]

they phoned me back couple of days later and told me its all approved and that i can return to work with some restriction ( replaced my laptop with thin client terminal, no work from home option, no unsupervised access..)
in the meanwhile i managed to secure a better contract so i decided to terminate this one, i gave notice and terminated it half way thru ..

[BrilloPad]

The poster has omitted to indicate what the offence was and the sector the company was in so no-one can say whether it was relevant, and that it's worth avoiding all roles in that sector to avoid problems.

That is true in B/C. I wish this was general where we could ll speculate wildly, post bullsh1t stories about imaginary friends with old convictions for minor offences and extrapolate.

[psychocandy]

12 months warchest is minimum I like to have if I can. Then I dont have to take contracts in locations I dont want to if I can help it.

[Ketchup]

One thing to remember - no contract is guaranteed to last. They can usually give you notice if they so desire.

Hopefully, this one will pan out ok for you but it might not. That, of course, would be a bummer.

Exactly this, I find with contracting the best approach is not to "count your chickens", plan to live on what you have in the bank, and every month you invoice for tops up this pool of money. I like to keep 12 months living expenses in a warchest with a view that after 9 months of not being able to find a contract i will drop my rate.

[psychocandy]

no
what really annoying is that no one ever told me before i left my permie, and i thought i had secured a decent long contract... im getting done for other peoples mistake not telling me before offering me the job

One thing to remember - no contract is guaranteed to last. They can usually give you notice if they so desire.

Hopefully, this one will pan out ok for you but it might not. That, of course, would be a bummer.

[SueEllen]

Unless it is directly related. Credit card fraud could be deemed minor but a bank won't agree when looking to take you on.

The poster has omitted to indicate what the offence was and the sector the company was in so no-one can say whether it was relevant, and that it's worth avoiding all roles in that sector to avoid problems.

Some companies don't abuse the CRB system but do want to know your convictions.

[northernladuk]

TBH, if it was a 'minor' offence and 8 years ago, Im very surprised the client has issues about it.

Unless it is directly related. Credit card fraud could be deemed minor but a bank won't agree when looking to take you on.

[BrilloPad]

TBH, if it was a 'minor' offence and 8 years ago, Im very surprised the client has issues about it.

+1

I reckon new year will come and you ill be laughing about it.

[BolshieBastard]

CRB checks are quite common and not just in relation to kiddies roles. If you want to work with most banks, you'll be asked to complete a basic CRB check. The more sensitive the data you're working with, the more likely you'll be asked to fill in an enhanced CRD check.

For most minor offences, you can ask for exemption in the offence being declared. In any event, 'spent' convictions shouldnt normally affect any employment application. However, clients \ employers can have their own policy towards any past convictions if they wish.

Its very difficult to say from the OP's post whether client will terminate as we dont know what the 'offence' was nor whether someone in client organisation is just being overly cautious.

TBH, if it was a 'minor' offence and 8 years ago, Im very surprised the client has issues about it.

https://www.gov.uk/crb-criminal-reco...check/overview

[Wanderer]

its been over 8 years and minor offence I only had to pay small fine ... how can i get it removed? who do i contact

Sorry to hear of your predicament.

It sounds like a spent conviction, so it won't appear on a CRB check unless you work with children/vulnerable people.

Unless it was an exempt job under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 (eg, Security Cleared job for the MOD or working with children/vulnerable people) then it's quite likely that you should not have declared it and they would have never known .

Legally, they are probably within their rights to terminate your contract for no reason at all but I'd go back to them and argue the point about it being a spent conviction and you say that you shouldn't have declared it to them. If the won't budge then you should consider either speaking to a contract lawyer and see if you can get payment for your notice period (probably unlikely).

Most likely, you are going to have to focus your effort on getting a new contract and move on....

[SueEllen]

no
what really annoying is that no one ever told me before i left my permie, and i thought i had secured a decent long contract... im getting done for other peoples mistake not telling me before offering me the job

Even as a permie depending on what industry the employer works in and/or what role you do for them they can still demand to know about spent convictions.

However unless relevant to the role they cannot do a CRB check on you.It

There are companies who are unfairly using CRB checks for all workers but the only thing you can do at the moment is complain to your MP about the particular company by name abusing the CRB system.

[Zippy]

Is it?
I've only had to fill it in once and that was at the very very end of a contract when I was going to have access to actual patient records. By the time the CRB check had come back I'd already finished!

WHS.

[stevejohnson]

I’m new to contracting, I resigned from a well-paid permanent role and started contracting not long ago,2 weeks after start of my contract I got told that I should fill in Criminal Records Bureau checks, at the time of signing contract there was no mention of Criminal Records Bureau checks checks ( neither of the client nor agent mentioned this to me)
Unfortunately I have committed a minor offense which is very old and i had to declare on my form, 2 weeks later I get told by line manager that I should leave the office and don’t come to work until management are back from holiday and discuss my circumstances internally. Can they terminate my contract?
I left my permanent job and relocated to a new town purely for this contract, and was not told about the checks until I started the role. All beyond my control: /
Phoned the agent but their office is closed for new year

these jobs arent like those jobs. but i feel for you. steal a chicken you are in trouble, steal a million you are important.

[mudskipper]

CRB Checks | Criminal Check | Criminal Records

A Standard level CRB check will detail every conviction (including spent convictions), caution, warning and reprimand which is recorded in central records, or it will state that there is no such information held.

I think that's shocking - I thought a spent conviction was just that unless the person was working with vulnerable groups.

A Basic level disclosure will detail all criminal information considered non-spent under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 or state that there are no such convictions.

It may be worth getting one of those yourself, then, if you're asked in the future you can wave that under their nose and hopefully they won't bother with the standard check.