Reply to: support monkey

[NotAllThere]

not sure why i get banned for telling the truth !.

Oh dear - another poor victim of moderator oppression.

You were not banned for telling the truth - you were banned for inappropriate posting in the professional forums. I.e. behaving like an idiot. If you continue making such posts then you will be banned permanently. Behave yourself. If you want to muck about - take it to General.

[jmo21]

Not just support. It's across the board these days (I know, as I never do support type roles.)

Yep, should have said, I'm a developer.

I suppose manager types will say that's just a step above support. (well, 2 steps, testers in the middle :-)

[nomadd]

Thanks , and why do they ask this ?

See my reply above this one.

because support is support regardless of skillset.

Not just support. It's across the board these days (I know, as I never do support type roles.)

[nomadd]

To be fair to this guy, as a contractor, I've had a number of agents ask me this in the past too. They get short shrift of course.

This^

I'd say on average these days, 25% of the agents who call me ask this "What is the lowest rate you will accept?" question. All they seem to want is the cheapest body on-site who can make them the most commission. As you say, they get short-shrift.

[unemployed]

To be fair to this guy, as a contractor, I've had a number of agents ask me this in the past too. They get short shrift of course.

Thanks , and why do they ask this ?

because support is support regardless of skillset.

[jmo21]

not sure why i get banned for telling the truth !

over a 5 year period i can recall 3 occasions agencies would ask me what is the lowest i would take.

why would i lie ?

To be fair to this guy, as a contractor, I've had a number of agents ask me this in the past too. They get short shrift of course.

[unemployed]

not sure why i get banned for telling the truth !

over a 5 year period i can recall 3 occasions agencies would ask me what is the lowest i would take.

why would i lie ?

[Scoobos]

Heh yeah.

Seriously though, I must get better at spotting time wasters. I took ages to post my "advice" but it was pointless when the OP is just a negative no hoper with no initiative.

Seriously saying its dead because the technology has moved on is just daft! So if its virtualised, then move from the OS to the technology.

Its like saying messaging specialists are a dead end because Novell GroupWise.lost out to exchange.

hopefully someone will find it useful.... Grrr

[pmeswani]

Says in 1 line what took me paragraphs... sorry.



16GB is crap, try 32gb on i7 3820 -- oooo yeah... 2xESX in HA , With dual Netapp NAS's , 16 virtual machines, including HA Exchange, Client PC's, NLB Forefront TMG, Edge Transport, Symantec Backup Exec, AD, --- MSDN Subscription (expenses of course) + VMWare FTW!

I can go up to 32GB on my system, but don't plan to build a Data Centre just yet.

[oscarose]

I am refering to your comment 'My point is everything under a system architect is considered a talented helpdesk monkey'. What a crock of utter tulip.

WHS

[realityhack]

Unemployed - find something else to do for a while, other than behaving inappropriately in the professional fora. TIA.

[northernladuk]

<moan moan cry cry>

Are you actually looking for advice her or just having a whinge about permie life on a contracting forum?

[northernladuk]

when an agency bod calls you up and says "what`s the lowest you will take"

Are you talking agents for perm roles or agents for contract roles? Agents very rarely say this, they are on commission so it isn't in their best interests to put you in as low as they can. It is in their interest to get their candidate in but cost isn't the most important factor. Even if they say that you stick the figure you want in and negotiate.[/quote]

i think i have a good understanding of the industry. supply and demand common sense !

This is just laughable. That is ecomonics not IT industry. I am refering to your comment 'My point is everything under a system architect is considered a talented helpdesk monkey'. What a crock of utter tulip.

Instead of moaning yourself in to a hole, how about getting a better, more positive attitude and go research what is out there and do something about it. I don't see common sense at all, just someone with blinkers who can't see the wood for the trees.

'jobs paying no better than working in tesco`s. ' is another comment that is just utterly ridiculous. I don't need to explain further.

Go find a permie board to moan on because this one is obviously not the place for you....

And for the record I will call Troll at this point.

[unemployed]

I'm on my 3rd HP Elitebook in 2 years at £1500 with this spec. plus my 2nd HP Mini, and 3rd HP printer.

I must be their only market

[Diver]

Hewlett Packard has warned of cuts in its UK operation in a global purge that will see it axe 27,000 workers.

The US technology company plans to make the cuts, which amount to 8% of its global workforce of almost 350,000 people, as it struggles for sales in a marketplace increasingly dominated by smartphones and tablet computers.
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I'm on my 3rd HP Elitebook in 2 years at £1500 with this spec. plus my 2nd HP Mini, and 3rd HP printer.

I must be their only market