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I just give a very generic area. I put £70-£150 above my current rate and £20 below. If they turn round and offer you a rate lower than what your current rate is, politely decline or be ready to negotiate hard.
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As others have said, the rate you have charged previous clients is confidential.
I have been asked my previous rates by agents in the past. I just say, "i'd rather not say". They usually reply, "that's ok, i understand".Last edited by kingcook; 27 March 2012, 22:39.
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Struggling to think of a time where I've told the agent my actual day rate. Because I do quite a few things, I genuinely price for the job. So if the job is a piece of piss, it's quite a low rate, and if it requires more specialist skills, it's a high rate. So I tell them the broad spectrum and say that my price will depend on what the client wants me to do.
And when I'm asked if I can lower my rate, I always say that I can if the client has a WFH policy (as this allows me to take on more work).
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Me cut out? I wasn't the one that suggested the day rate is covered by a confidentiality clause.Originally posted by tractor View PostYour contract is invariably with the agent who will no doubt have a confidentiality clause in the contract that you sign. Most of mine have. If not all, but I'm not gonna go back and read them all again
You will of course be bound by some parts of the contract even after it has been determined.
The policy documents that you may be required to sign with the client are entirely different.
Are you sure you are cut out for contracting?
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My guess is they want this information to see how much margin they can get from you. I'd put a rate down, essentially the one you want, it's a starting point for negotiatons.
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Your contract is invariably with the agent who will no doubt have a confidentiality clause in the contract that you sign. Most of mine have. If not all, but I'm not gonna go back and read them all againOriginally posted by northernladuk View PostTotally what Nomadd says. Why would the want this execpt for their own personal use, be it to cut you down or market research, neither of which benefit you so do your best to avoid.
Don't think this is correct though. Clients information will be confidential, they can't stop you telling people your rate.
You will of course be bound by some parts of the contract even after it has been determined.
The policy documents that you may be required to sign with the client are entirely different.
Are you sure you are cut out for contracting?
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Thanks for the advice. Going to put down clients and omitt the rates, if they push for it I will tell them where to go
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Totally what Nomadd says. Why would the want this execpt for their own personal use, be it to cut you down or market research, neither of which benefit you so do your best to avoid.Originally posted by nomadd View PostI think you'd be a fool to divulge anything, TBH.
I mean, just try phoning a few random companies and ask them for the details of their contracts with their clients. ..And yet you are going to divulge your companies trading history to someone else? Ask the agent if they are prepared to divulge all their trading/charging history to you, and see what reply you get.
As regards lying - be careful. It could come back to bite you.
Originally posted by tractor View PostI am quite sure there is a confidentiality clause in all of your previous contracts. Simply cite this and enter the rate that you are looking for.
Don't think this is correct though. Clients information will be confidential, they can't stop you telling people your rate.
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I am quite sure there is a confidentiality clause in all of your previous contracts. Simply cite this and enter the rate that you are looking for.
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I think you'd be a fool to divulge anything, TBH.Originally posted by stacks View PostGot a pre-interview form to complete that asks for details of my previous 3 positions and the final salary at each one. Now I know this looks like a standard form for a permanent employee to complete but the agent has asked that I also fill it in and put in my daily rate at each one.
Now I cant see how or why I should do this as it's irrelivant and of course with the new contract I'm pushing for a stronger daily rate so I dont want them to know what I charge right now.
Any advice on how to play this, do I have to or just fill in details f the contract positions and titles (thats on my CV already) and tell him thats it?
I mean, just try phoning a few random companies and ask them for the details of their contracts with their clients. ..And yet you are going to divulge your companies trading history to someone else? Ask the agent if they are prepared to divulge all their trading/charging history to you, and see what reply you get.
As regards lying - be careful. It could come back to bite you.
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Either refuse to put down your previous rates (as the agent will try and knock you down to what you disclose as the lowest) or, put down 10 - 15% more than you want for the current role.
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Personally, I'd list the contracts and omit the rates. If they insist, I'd be inclined to put down the rate I want or slightly more.
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Lie and ensure the rates you list are slightly higher than what you want.Originally posted by stacks View PostGot a pre-interview form to complete that asks for details of my previous 3 positions and the final salary at each one. Now I know this looks like a standard form for a permanent employee to complete but the agent has asked that I also fill it in and put in my daily rate at each one.
Now I cant see how or why I should do this as it's irrelivant and of course with the new contract I'm pushing for a stronger daily rate so I dont want them to know what I charge right now.
Any advice on how to play this, do I have to or just fill in details f the contract positions and titles (thats on my CV already) and tell him thats it?
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Disclosing current rate
Got a pre-interview form to complete that asks for details of my previous 3 positions and the final salary at each one. Now I know this looks like a standard form for a permanent employee to complete but the agent has asked that I also fill it in and put in my daily rate at each one.
Now I cant see how or why I should do this as it's irrelivant and of course with the new contract I'm pushing for a stronger daily rate so I dont want them to know what I charge right now.
Any advice on how to play this, do I have to or just fill in details f the contract positions and titles (thats on my CV already) and tell him thats it?Tags: None
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