Reply to: I am not getting a good rate please help with the below message for a good suggestion

[theroyale]

I suppose it's because there is some reciprocation between those countries and the UK

Well if you're looking for reciprocation I'd say look at the thousands and thousands of Brits and Western europeans who take a year off work and go to India, Thailand, Sri Lanka and wherever else they please to "find themselves" or whatever. That's how these countries reciprocate, is one way of looking at it: they come here for work (and contribute to our economy), we go there to stare at their children, take pictures of them smiling at our camera, and come back with stories to tell (and contribute to their economy).

[ArthurBigot]

so called ICT lot will be heading home soon*" are jingoistic and border on xenophobic.

Look at the number of posts on here about working in Australia, US, Canada and everywhere else and kindly explain the different to me.

I suppose it's because there is some reciprocation between those countries and the UK see's lots of Ozzies etc working here... not certain it's possible for us to work on the sub continent so easily - but correct me if I'm wrong

[stillooking]

Ouch indeed!

I'll have you know my comprehension and reading skills of the queens english are excellent and I'm articulated like a lorry (sic)!

Ok put 'em up!!!

Here's my gripe. The few of you I have corresponded with on this forum will know my posts are normally freindly and practical. I'm not one for dishing out cheek for the sake of it. But comments like your "*wonders if this means a lot like him and the so called ICT lot will be heading home soon*" are jingoistic and border on xenophobic.

The originator of this post did not create the current job market, had no influence on the trades legislation or globalisation policies that permit him to work here. He's merely doing what he can to get the best out of it. As are the remainder of us.

Look at the number of posts on here about working in Australia, US, Canada and everywhere else and kindly explain the different to me. We all put up with whatever crap life and the governmental systems throw at us and try to make the best of it. Fair play to the original poster and the rest like him as far as I'm concerned.

You have a problem with UK immigration policies then try writing to your politician rather than making comments like that.

Meantime I look forward with relish (on my lunchtime sarnie as it happens!) to your long detailed reply about the damage the policies of cheap imported labour has had on those employed in UK IT. Just do you best not to quote Mein Kampf along the way.

You're using quite emotive language; folks should be entitled to air their views and opinions.

People, wherever you will go will feel concerned when different supply chains/methods are used to service a business need and potentially impacts on their ability to continue to secure a good living - it is natural that they feel this way.

Perhaps the OP was a hoax anyway, to wind people up.

[Sausage Surprise]

Meantime I look forward with relish (on my lunchtime sarnie as it happens!) to your long detailed reply about the damage the policies of cheap imported labour has had on those employed in UK IT. Just do you best not to quote Mein Kampf along the way.

No need for for a long detailed reply from me.
I had a 3 month contract that got cut short because I was undercut by a cheap permie replacement direct from Pakistan. Nothing to do with my work - he was just cheaper! This led to me being on the bench for 2 months over Christmas. I have no idea how this person had a work permit and I later found out he was "moved on" into another department because he couldn't do the job (completely contradicting his cv skills).

Bitter....Moi?

[Langkawi]

Langkawi, i could give you long detailed reply about the damage the policies of cheap imported labour has had on those employed in UK IT, but to be honest not worth the effort for someone who's reading comprehension is so low

Ouch indeed!

I'll have you know my comprehension and reading skills of the queens english are excellent and I'm articulated like a lorry (sic)!

Ok put 'em up!!!

Here's my gripe. The few of you I have corresponded with on this forum will know my posts are normally freindly and practical. I'm not one for dishing out cheek for the sake of it. But comments like your "*wonders if this means a lot like him and the so called ICT lot will be heading home soon*" are jingoistic and border on xenophobic.

The originator of this post did not create the current job market, had no influence on the trades legislation or globalisation policies that permit him to work here. He's merely doing what he can to get the best out of it. As are the remainder of us.

Look at the number of posts on here about working in Australia, US, Canada and everywhere else and kindly explain the different to me. We all put up with whatever crap life and the governmental systems throw at us and try to make the best of it. Fair play to the original poster and the rest like him as far as I'm concerned.

You have a problem with UK immigration policies then try writing to your politician rather than making comments like that.

Meantime I look forward with relish (on my lunchtime sarnie as it happens!) to your long detailed reply about the damage the policies of cheap imported labour has had on those employed in UK IT. Just do you best not to quote Mein Kampf along the way.

[Sausage Surprise]

At the risk of going off topic, Martin Ward Anderson do show their rates to the public, although the document is a little hard to find.

http://www.martinwardanderson.com/up...tions%20UK.pdf

Jeez!!! 40%!!! Bloody thieves!

Mind you, I must say I've never heard of them.

[TheFaQQer]

To the OP, you are a commodity to the agent and nothing more. Don't expect them to assist you in trying to up your rate.

If you're not happy, find another contract with a rate you are happy with.

WHS - either suck it up or move on. End of.

[nomadd]

Dear Sir, [SNIP]

And this week's troll award goes to... Mind you, still a few more days for some "new" posters to appear yet.

[Wanderer]

i ask my agency if my pay can be raised, they say client didn't raise , so they can't raise. Recently I felt my rate has to be increased.

Go and tell the agency to give you a pay rise out of their margin. If they won't then get a job somewhere else that pays more (if you can). Don't let them fob you off, you need a thick skin in this business. (And if you don't want to be offended by all the little Englanders on this forum )

[Not So Wise]

At the risk of going off topic, Martin Ward Anderson do show their rates to the public, although the document is a little hard to find.

http://www.martinwardanderson.com/up...tions%20UK.pdf

40%? ouch *puts them on advoid list*
Really would say they have that scale wrong way around, higher rates for lower value contracts, lower for higher.

Langkawi, i could give you long detailed reply about the damage the policies of cheap imported labour has had on those employed in UK IT, but to be honest not worth the effort for someone who's reading comprehension is so low

[meridian]

Likewise thats why there are no websites showing their margins.

At the risk of going off topic, Martin Ward Anderson do show their rates to the public, although the document is a little hard to find.

http://www.martinwardanderson.com/up...tions%20UK.pdf

[Bunk]

Hi Chetty

...or is it Swati

Nope, his English seems better than Swati/Chetty/Gimpboy.

[gricerboy]

Hi Chetty

...or is it Swati

[northernladuk]

I'm surprised and yet somehow proud of the members here that this kinda misguided thread didn't result in the total slating I expected. CUK members - well done on some rare self restraint (or have the mods cracked down on cheek since I last logged on!).

I don't know which thread you are reading Alan but everyone post on here has a tongue in cheek dig at the OP's situation and level of respect IMO.

Very little sympathy here for this type of question and situation I am afraid.

[ratewhore]

To the OP, you are a commodity to the agent and nothing more. Don't expect them to assist you in trying to up your rate.

If you're not happy, find another contract with a rate you are happy with.