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Previously on "The post went to/the client is considering an internal candidate"
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After 12 years, I know this all too well. My point is, I guess, to simply tell the truth! If the expenditure/budget was pulled, just say so! As I say, I'm a big boy, I can take it.
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Question is what do you consider to be a contractor role. there are consultanccy roles which you could question how can a internal candidate do it but as far as i can see in my area (PM Service Delivery) I havent been to one client yet where I havent worked next to permies doing the same role. COuld be argued 90 percent of all roles in this area are nicely in IR 35 but thats is for another discussion.Originally posted by VBScab View PostWhilst waiting to hear whether or not I have been successful in securing a contract, I'm being told that the client is considering an internal candidate. Late last year, I was told that I'd missed out on another role as an internal candidate had been appointed. Now, this *has* to be a euphemism, right?
How can there be an internal candidate for a contract role, unless the other party is a contractor? In which case, *their* position is now vacant and, since their skills must have matched yours, there's *still* a vacancy, right?
A euphemism for...what, though? I'm a big boy: if you didn't like me, just say! If you thought I wasn't quite the right fit or one of my skills wasn't quite sufficient, tell me! I won't cry.
Responders: I'd appreciate non-sarcastic responses - I just want to know what I'm *really* being told.
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And in fact the opposite can be true, especially in the public sector: they MUST advertise the job externally to ensure that they are getting the best person for the role. So they go through the motions of looking at a few CVs and maybe even interviewing one or two folks. Then they give the job to the person they always intended to get the job (the internal candidate).Originally posted by Wanderer View PostNo, what has happened is that the client's recruitment proceedures say that all job vacancies have to be advertised internally before they recruit someone external. Often this is a legal requirement especially if they are making people redundant.
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don't spend time reading into what agencies tell you most of it is bullsh1t anyway, you
need to make decisions on the facts and what's on the table, if nothing is on the table then
keep applying until there is an offer on the table.
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I told my boss, I needed another contractor. He ok'd it, I recruited, then his boss nixed the expenditure. Though I did tell the contractor exactly what had happened and apologised profusely for my boss's boss being a complete arse.
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No, what has happened is that the client's recruitment proceedures say that all job vacancies have to be advertised internally before they recruit someone external. Often this is a legal requirement especially if they are making people redundant.Originally posted by VBScab View PostI'm being told that the client is considering an internal candidate. Late last year, I was told that I'd missed out on another role as an internal candidate had been appointed. Now, this *has* to be a euphemism, right?
Could be a redundancy, secondment, transfer or promotion.Originally posted by VBScab View PostHow can there be an internal candidate for a contract role, unless the other party is a contractor? In which case, *their* position is now vacant and, since their skills must have matched yours, there's *still* a vacancy, right?
They can't tell you because they aren't allowed to or they just don't want to. Or maybe they really do want to hire you but they were told they couldn't due to internal politics (a redundant/displaced/bosses mate got the job instead). Sometimes they will tell you, others they won't.Originally posted by VBScab View PostA euphemism for...what, though? I'm a big boy: if you didn't like me, just say! If you thought I wasn't quite the right fit or one of my skills wasn't quite sufficient, tell me! I won't cry.
Sometimes they will mess about for ages because of some PITA in procurement can't get the paperwork approved. Other times, they didn't have a budget approved and someone threw a hissy fit.
All sorts of stupid stuff happens, you've just got to roll with it. Don't let it eat you up.
Good luck!
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I had a role that I interviewed for go to "an Employee's brother who is a contractor".
Next!
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I've been in a position where the client were considering either using existing internal resources or contractor...could be something similar.
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You could be being told a load of crap or you could be being told the truth. More than once moved within a client from one department to another when one project is finished and another has come up
No way really to tell, just forget about it and move on
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The post went to/the client is considering an internal candidate
Whilst waiting to hear whether or not I have been successful in securing a contract, I'm being told that the client is considering an internal candidate. Late last year, I was told that I'd missed out on another role as an internal candidate had been appointed. Now, this *has* to be a euphemism, right?
How can there be an internal candidate for a contract role, unless the other party is a contractor? In which case, *their* position is now vacant and, since their skills must have matched yours, there's *still* a vacancy, right?
A euphemism for...what, though? I'm a big boy: if you didn't like me, just say! If you thought I wasn't quite the right fit or one of my skills wasn't quite sufficient, tell me! I won't cry.
Responders: I'd appreciate non-sarcastic responses - I just want to know what I'm *really* being told.Tags: None
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