Reply to: You cannot be Serious...Can You?

[TykeMerc]

And here's another one........

Project Manager required to implement ICT and Connecting for Health projects. You will be involved with the planning and delivery of a portfolio of allocated projects with budgets in excess of £500,000 to support care delivery. You will be required to travel to various sites across the North East and attend workshops in Leeds. Liaising with senior members across the organisation you will have responsibility for the management of core project staff.

Experience of managing NPfiT Projects, budget management and change management is essential as is a Prince 2 Certification.

Extensive knowledge of Word, Outlook, Excel, Powerpoint, MS Project and Visio.

Only NHS experienced candidates will be considered for this role due to the nature of the work involved.
Rullion Computer Personnel Ltd is acting as an Employment Business in relation to this vacancy.
LocationNorth East EnglandCountryEnglandStart Date06/04/09Duration3 monthsRate£150-£250/Day

[nevergoingtopay]

[B][I]Rate Up To £6.50/hr (well I suppose it's a long term contract )[/I

That’s all of £0.77p over the minimum wage!

£5.73 per hour for workers aged 22 years and older from Oct 1st 2008.

What a joke…must be a decimal point in the wrong place!!!

[Turion]

Look at this senior SAP role

SAP Banking Solution Architect - Swindon Contract


SAP Corebanking, BP, BI, DM, CMS, CML - Swindon

We are currently looking for an experienced SAP Corebanking Solution Architect to work for our client. Our client is a multi billion dollar Global IT Service and Consultancy provider.

Candidates will be required to review and advise on the SAP Transactional Banking 6.0 architectural solution. Modules to be implemented are BP, DM, SDS, as well as specific CDPs being produced for the client.

Candidates must have experience in SAP Corebanking and deep functional and technical knowledge across BP, DM, CMS, CML, BI. Security clearence would be advantageous.

Please apply for more details.

FSR Recruitment (UK) - solutions for IT, Finance, Telecoms and Engineering
Location Swindon, Wiltshire
Country England
Start Date ASAP
Duration 14 months
Rate Up To £6.50/hr (well I suppose it's a long term contract )
Employment Business FSR Recruitment
Contact Adam Lowray
Telephone 0870 606 100
Email Adam.Lowray.D9899.BCC22@mail.jobserve.com
Reference JSPS06159
Posted Date 24/03/2009 17:45:00

[centurian]

At this rate we still soon be expected to pay for the priviledge of being in a contract.

Well in a way, we're getting there. Rates for those roles that are still around are so tulipe, that on a comparitive basis, it's lower than permie jobs.

So why are people still taking them...

Because actually they prefer the freedom from office bull - easy to swap work without looking bad on a CV etc.

These used to be additional perks of being a contractor - now they're the only thing left.

[adestor]

What about this one then;

Project Manager Contract


A Health client requires a Project Manager to lead production of final report of the clients digital inclusion pilot, the role will also include reviewing and assessing wider options for combating digital inclusion.

You will be an experienced Project Manager who has lead on public sector transformation programmes, with experience of e-Government at local and regional levels, excellent understanding of how local service operate in the area of health and social care, and the opportunities for partnership working, strategic approach to understanding and evaluating options and presenting an evidence based way forward, innovative and creative approach to delivering accessible services to hard to reach groups, good communication and stakeholder management skills, demonstrable experience of delivery of government projects.

Location City Of London
Country England
Start Date Asao
Duration 4 months
Rate £10/Hour
Employment Business LA International Computer Consultants Ltd
Contact Annie Matyus
Telephone 01782 203040
Fax 01782 203050
Email Annie.Matyus.F36F5.2DDA4@mail.jobserve.com
Reference JSAM/777888
Posted Date 26/03/2009 15:14:34


At this rate we still soon be expected to pay for the priviledge of being in a contract.

Feck, I laughed out loud when I saw that rate. Defo earmarked for one of our Indian cousins.

[minestrone]

£160/day = £40K /year

Probably hoping to dupe some poor permie who's just been laid off.

Spot on.

[centurian]

Yeah it's more like 35K after employers etc (i assume 260 working days in one year)

Which is a 'decent' salary (above average anyway).

what they will more likely get is a good admin person who can run a meeting and take minutes, keep project paperwork up to date and kiss some azz.

But they will not get someone who can lead a project from the front, motivate people, have a basic understanding of the technical issues involved, be willing to challenge senior management and existing ingrained thought patterns etc

probably.

That assumes one is able to work for the full period. No sickness, training, pension, permie protection etc.

Those are impossible to quantity, but as a rough average I'd say it's equivalent to around 28-30K.

[fishslice]

Downward Trend Continues....

What about this one then;

Project Manager Contract


A Health client requires a Project Manager to lead production of final report of the clients digital inclusion pilot, the role will also include reviewing and assessing wider options for combating digital inclusion.

You will be an experienced Project Manager who has lead on public sector transformation programmes, with experience of e-Government at local and regional levels, excellent understanding of how local service operate in the area of health and social care, and the opportunities for partnership working, strategic approach to understanding and evaluating options and presenting an evidence based way forward, innovative and creative approach to delivering accessible services to hard to reach groups, good communication and stakeholder management skills, demonstrable experience of delivery of government projects.

Location City Of London
Country England
Start Date Asao
Duration 4 months
Rate £10/Hour
Employment Business LA International Computer Consultants Ltd
Contact Annie Matyus
Telephone 01782 203040
Fax 01782 203050
Email Annie.Matyus.F36F5.2DDA4@mail.jobserve.com
Reference JSAM/777888
Posted Date 26/03/2009 15:14:34


At this rate we still soon be expected to pay for the priviledge of being in a contract.

[original PM]

Yeah it's more like 35K after employers etc (i assume 260 working days in one year)

Which is a 'decent' salary (above average anyway).

what they will more likely get is a good admin person who can run a meeting and take minutes, keep project paperwork up to date and kiss some azz.

But they will not get someone who can lead a project from the front, motivate people, have a basic understanding of the technical issues involved, be willing to challenge senior management and existing ingrained thought patterns etc

probably.

[the_duderama]

Not through PAYE/Umbrella it's not.. which is the most likely route for any poor laid-off permie.

Yeah it's more like 35K after employers etc (i assume 260 working days in one year)

[chris79]

£160/day = £40K /year

Probably hoping to dupe some poor permie who's just been laid off.

Not through PAYE/Umbrella it's not.. which is the most likely route for any poor laid-off permie.

[Pondlife]

£160/day = £40K /year

Probably hoping to dupe some poor permie who's just been laid off.

[Mephisto]

Stupid people like me have started to apply for roles like this!

I see 'Business Analyst' closely followed by '£150 per day' and I think, "Ooooh Junior role I can blag cos I done GAP analysis as a favour once Guv..."

Surprisingly I've had not one call regarding any of these roles yet

[chris79]

Perhaps they missed a 'k' off the salary quoted.

[Rantor]

This happened a lot in the last mini downturn around 2002.

The two main causes then were agencies trying to retain 70% of the client budget or the job is being advertised at a derisory rate as it has already been earmarked for someone coming in from India.