Reply to: SAP Roles

[Brussels Slumdog]

Interesting thread that has drawn me out for my first post on this forum!


I notice that a lot of you guys seem to be into configuration as opposed to training etc., is there anyone else about that specialises in Training and / Training Management?

I cover all aspects of FICO. Training contracts tend to be shorter and sometimes for odd days. Config jobs + help desk jobs are generally longer.

You can teach me in French or Dutch but I cant teach in Frenc or Dutch.

[PaulCD]

[QUOTE=sapcons;809491]

I've developed (and delivered) training in FI/CO, HR, PS, SD, CRM and BI[/QUOTE

Hi, long time lurker here... my first post, Great forum!

Paul- we are looking for SAP Functional trainers... Do you know anyone?
We are small sap consultancy NOT an agency!

Me for one!

PM me with further details?

[sapcons]

[QUOTE=PaulCD;808878]I've developed (and delivered) training in FI/CO, HR, PS, SD, CRM and BI[/QUOTE

Hi, long time lurker here... my first post, Great forum!

Paul- we are looking for SAP Functional trainers... Do you know anyone?
We are small sap consultancy NOT an agency!

[PaulCD]

Not a word to be used too close to functional analysts, and for anyone technical, you'd better have your escape route well-planned...

Oops!....

[PaulCD]

Which modules and functions do you primarily deliver education content for?

If the contract market is depressed in the education arena perhaps you can use your knowledge of these modules and drop sideways into a more practical role such as a business/functional analyst? Obviously there would be a learning curve picking up business processes but you'd need to do this for training delivery anyway.

Best of luck.

I've developed (and delivered) training in FI/CO, HR, PS, SD, CRM and BI7

I'm currently developing BI7 technical documentation for Kraft in Zurich and the UK

[Svalbaard]

Thanks.

No I am a technical training consultant not a facilitator. I am well versed at the whole e-Learning methodology but to be honest, nothing beats proper instructor lead training with a decent level of delegate interaction in my view. Don't get me wrong, simluations and the like have their place but they are ONLY of benefit as a post training aid.

I've had a few positive leads today, which is pleasing.

Which modules and functions do you primarily deliver education content for?

If the contract market is depressed in the education arena perhaps you can use your knowledge of these modules and drop sideways into a more practical role such as a business/functional analyst? Obviously there would be a learning curve picking up business processes but you'd need to do this for training delivery anyway.

Best of luck.

[PaulCD]

Hi Paul, welcome to CUK.

Most companies that I have delivered SAP into normally have an in-house unit that delivers education as a part of a business readiness or existing service management function. In my experience these units usually employ specialist functional consultants to draw out the specific learning content rather than employing a "trainer" per se. Over the last couple of contracts I have seen a shift into using custom e-training templates to train staff, as the delivery costs tend to be lower.

Not also sure if you are saying that you are a training facilitator, or rather a trainer capable of delivering technical or functional training to a userbase?

I would suggest that the latter will be more attractive to employers in coming years and there is a list of 3rd party partner training providers on the SAP UK education portal.

Thanks.

No I am a technical training consultant not a facilitator. I am well versed at the whole e-Learning methodology but to be honest, nothing beats proper instructor lead training with a decent level of delegate interaction in my view. Don't get me wrong, simluations and the like have their place but they are ONLY of benefit as a post training aid.

I've had a few positive leads today, which is pleasing.

[NotAllThere]

...I notice that a lot of you guys seem to be into configuration as opposed to training etc., ...

Not a word to be used too close to functional analysts, and for anyone technical, you'd better have your escape route well-planned...

[Svalbaard]

Hi Paul, welcome to CUK.

Most companies that I have delivered SAP into normally have an in-house unit that delivers education as a part of a business readiness or existing service management function. In my experience these units usually employ specialist functional consultants to draw out the specific learning content rather than employing a "trainer" per se. Over the last couple of contracts I have seen a shift into using custom e-training templates to train staff, as the delivery costs tend to be lower.

Not also sure if you are saying that you are a training facilitator, or rather a trainer capable of delivering technical or functional training to a userbase?

I would suggest that the latter will be more attractive to employers in coming years and there is a list of 3rd party partner training providers on the SAP UK education portal.

[PaulCD]

Interesting thread that has drawn me out for my first post on this forum!

What are people's thoughts on SAP Training roles at the moment? As a training consultant / manager with over 10 years all in and the last 3 years in SAP, I've jsut been made redundant from a mjor player in the construction industry as a permanent SAP Lead Trainer and am thinking about reverting back to contract roles, at least in the short term. I've had some positive responses to my CV today, after 1 day of putting myself out there, and have an interview already confirmed for Monday coming.

I notice that a lot of you guys seem to be into configuration as opposed to training etc., is there anyone else about that specialises in Training and / Training Management?

[Svalbaard]

Since I commented on this story previous I thought I'd give you an updated view based on the last couple of weeks.

I think you need to hang in there. I am a SAP PM and have turned away 4 solid contract PM roles this week and a few more permie SAP roles. When I say solid I mean I have the specs in my inbox all from established agencies for respectable companies.

I suggest that this means that SAP projects are being ramped up in line with revised budgets for delivery in the new financial year which means that requirements for tech delivery roles might start coming through shortly after.

PM me if you want any more info.

Best of luck.

[naijamanuk]

I'm a ABAP / ABAP Objects developer and BI modeller. Currently on highest rates since I began SAP in 1997 (especially when factoring in exchange rates), and have two large contracts for this year
I'm getting fewer calls/emails from agencies than this time last year. Regionally, the drop-off seems to be proportional to the effects that the global crisis is having on the country in question. If you haven't already got at least two years SAP experience, then forget it.

I've only just recently gotten into BI so i guess its looking bleak then

at least the sun still shines in the morning.... oh shi*

[Brussels Slumdog]

UK verses Europe job market and job adds

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I work for an SAP Recruitment Specialist & there is certainly an element of truth in what you say regarding the job boards being flooded with 'bogus' ads or ads for roles that are not live. My experience within this area of recruitment (which is 8 months) is that companies will tend to put 'feeler' ads out to see who is available if they have 'potential' roles that they believe may be coming up.


Some of the adds are a complete give away and you dont even need to apply. Just phone one or two of the agencies you have a good relation with and ask about the postion.
eg Included in the add are the words " FICO consultant" "Maccelsfield" and "must have pharmaceutical experience"
Answer just how many Mutinational pharmaceutical companies are there in Maccelsfield?

One job site seems to contain adds only by one or two agencies who I have been told are actually the same company.

In europe all the SAP jobs suddenly require you to speak the local language

[NotAllThere]

In '98 I was offered one in Columbia. £1000 a day, three weeks in, two weeks out, flights paid for. Secure compound + bodyguard.

That's what clinched it - if I need a bodyguard and a secure compound, forget it.

[rootsnall]

Yes, but how much does the South American market pay?

I tried to land a contract in South America in the boom days but could never quite pull it off, the money was OK back then.

I suspect the South America boom, if there is one, is due to one or two roll outs as their economies are I think as stuffed as ours.