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Originally posted by chris79 View PostAh well, dilemma over.
Had feedback today to say I didn't get the job for #1.. for anyone interested it was NHS, just goes to show that it *is* possible to get a sniff, despite no previous experience... (contrary to the urban legends going round at the moment)
Roll on Monday then, twice the rate, twice the contract length.. failing that, more holiday time to look forward to!!
Win/win!
Good luck for Monday.
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Ah well, dilemma over.
Had feedback today to say I didn't get the job for #1.. for anyone interested it was NHS, just goes to show that it *is* possible to get a sniff, despite no previous experience... (contrary to the urban legends going round at the moment)
Roll on Monday then, twice the rate, twice the contract length.. failing that, more holiday time to look forward to!!
Win/win!
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Explain this to Agent number 2 and ask that the interview be brought forward. Client no 2 will also want to see you if they only have 2 people they are interested in. The other guy could turn out to be a muppet.
At this time any job is a good 'un.
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Originally posted by smiff View PostI agree, it would be great to pay back agents for all the transparency they show in dealings with contractors.
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Best of luck and I sincerely hope that you get put in the position of having to choose between 2 nice offers.
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Ok thanks for all the replies guys (and girls?), I really appreciate everyone's input here.
I've had a think about it and decided to say nothing for now, it seems pointless making any fuss as potentially I may not even be offered job #1. If I get confirmation of an offer I will request the contract is sent so I can check it over.
Hopefully I can get interview #2 done and a result before being pressed to have this returned and signed, at that point if I need to turn down #1 I can do this and state that I've had a surprise offer come from a previous client and that given the situation the contract being offered (for my own security) can't be ignored.
Either way it doesn't matter when or how I break the news, I know agent #1 will not be impressed. What I don't want to do is burn my bridges without a firm confirmation from #2 first, as that could leave me in a bad situation.
Could certainly be the biggest crossroads in my career to-date this coming week (or maybe even nothing at all)!.
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Originally posted by chris79 View PostYeah, there's absolutely no way I'm going to sign a contract then back track on it once signed. I've just had an email from agency job #1 to say client will say on Friday who they want.
1) Just don't answer the phone on Friday
2) Take the honest approach as suggested elsewhere
3) Try the middle ground - consider replying back to the agent before friday saying that as they have not made a decision yet you have another interview arranged for next week - this then lets the agent know you are in demand.
Good Luck!
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Good luck I hope you get the higher rate/longer job. Sounds to me like you deserve a break, but you need to try not to burn bridges here if possible. Sometimes it is not possible though and bridges DO get torched.
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Originally posted by chris79 View Post... the agent I'm in contact with is very pro-active in terms of having everything wrapped up....
Agencies always ask for commitment before an offer, tell them you'll make a decision after you've had an official offer, seen the contract terms, and had a few nights to sleep on it. If they persist tell them you'll have to talk to the client again directly and ask for the date they are working to to get an answer.
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Originally posted by P1mpAndPr0ud View PostWhy not try being honest with both Agents?
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Why not try being honest with both Agents?
Tell Agent #1 that you have another interview, and if that comes off oyu will consider it. Tell him that you think his role is a better one long-term, but that the other role pays more (which is all true). Ask if there is any way of negotiating an increased rate and/or a longer contract. If not, then you've lost nothing and gained a better understanding of where you stand.
Tell agent #2 that you have already had another interview, and that it is a better prospect long-term, but that his rate is better and you will take that into consideration when making your decision.
You'll probably p**s them both off a little bit, but once the swelling goes down on their ego, they'll appreciate the honesty. Be honest and sincere with both, and you'll probably come up trumps. Of course, there is a chance that you will end up with nothing, but that is the price you pay for being in the contracting world, and pursuing multiple opportunities.
Just a thought...
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If you get the first job, then accept the first job "subject to an agreed contract". Then hope that the second job comes up, offers you a role, and it lasts.
Of course, there is no guarantee that either of the roles will last more than a week (or a day) - it may well be that either or both is cancelled before the end (or possibly before the start, as happened recently to a friend of mine).
I think I would take the first one that comes up with an agreed contract in writing, if it were me.
Alternatively, keep your phone switched off all day Friday in case they want to offer you the role...
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Originally posted by Turion View PostYou are the noble one - not. You're a liar, you've already told us you bailed after 1 day in your previous contract. So that's not backtracking is it?. Of course you will tell us that case was different. They always are for you aren't they.
What would you do if they gave you a job spec which you agreed to in an interview/meeting, only to turn up on the Monday and have a different person give you a completely different role (and by different I mean completely off the scale in terms of why you were brought in).
So yes, that case was different in my view. In general I have good morals and principles, but the client caused that problem, not my choice.
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