Reply to: No work....No pay

[northernladuk]

I've questioned things like that right from the start. My position has always been that nobody can predict IR35. It's completely pot luck.

This upsets people like NLUK because it takes away their right to pontificate. Loads of others eg contract review companies, are also unlikely to disabuse potential clients. The insides of tube carriages are plastered with adverts for vitamin pills. They never say "These add nothing to your health as you are almost certainly getting all you need".

I always ask "What makes you think that?". However I never get an answer.

Ever

Not sure why you brought me in to it

[Cirrus]

why did it take you 8 years to question it?

I've questioned things like that right from the start. My position has always been that nobody can predict IR35. It's completely pot luck.

This upsets people like NLUK because it takes away their right to pontificate. Loads of others eg contract review companies, are also unlikely to disabuse potential clients. The insides of tube carriages are plastered with adverts for vitamin pills. They never say "These add nothing to your health as you are almost certainly getting all you need".

I always ask "What makes you think that?". However I never get an answer.

Ever

[TheFaQQer]

why did it take you 8 years to question it?

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Maybe when Cirrus joined (s)he neglected to read every thread that had ever been posted on CUK prior to joining?

[pr1]

I question that. One of the early IR35 cases was around someone with lots of concurrent clients. Anybody else remember the details?

why did it take you 8 years to question it?

[Cirrus]

you have concurrent contracts, which immediately put you outside IR35.

I question that. One of the early IR35 cases was around someone with lots of concurrent clients. Anybody else remember the details?

[BrilloPad]

OP = Opening Post. Anal is ok - better to be safe than sorry

[BrowneIssue]

Give that woman a medal.

Or a new ring.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Lisa - you should know better than to admit that on CUK!!

Oh dear - didn't think that one through really did I

[Beefy198]

Anal is ok - better to be safe than sorry

Give that woman a medal.

[rootsnall]

The recent contracts I've had that I bothered reading were written in a way that if there is no work to do then the agent/client don't have to pay you. Sounds fair enough to me and if you are on no notice, or 1 week in my case then it is irrelevant anyway. I guess the problem is if you want to go elsewhere and your notice period for you to walk is a lot longer. I always state to the client I'm OK with no work no pay anyway as it has helped in the past with getting renewals. If the work dries up you start looking around and go elsewhere when something turns up.

[tim123]

Regardless of IR35, them not paying you hardly maximizing your earnings is it?

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In the current market, telling them "if they can't offer continuous work you will walk", isn't likely to either

tim

[PM-Junkie]

hehehehehe - "anal is ok"

Could turn out to be the quote of the year

[TheFaQQer]

Anal is ok - better to be safe than sorry

Lisa - you should know better than to admit that on CUK!!

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Sorry OP ?

I am just being anal... I am like that

Could the tax man not take a view point considering they are all contractors that in fact we arent a real company with real employees.

Every time I read on IR35 it scares the tulip out of me. So I just try to be anal about it.

Anyway, I got the advice I wanted.

Thanks guys...

OP = Opening Post. Anal is ok - better to be safe than sorry

[dx4100]

In that case I don't really understand the OP. If you are operating as a business and have other people on your books as employees there should be no question of your IR35 status regardless of whether or not you receive payment via a retainer when you are not working.

Sorry OP ?

I am just being anal... I am like that

Could the tax man not take a view point considering they are all contractors that in fact we arent a real company with real employees.

Every time I read on IR35 it scares the tulip out of me. So I just try to be anal about it.

Anyway, I got the advice I wanted.

Thanks guys...