Reply to: Interview Test

[shoes]

This is all true.....Shoe i think you didn't read my original post. She is currently a tester which involves sitting at her desk writing plans, specs and execution. she is moving to a Senior Test Analyst which involve co-ordinating projects, attending meetings, dealing with customers (which may involve presentation overviews.)

Oh. Ok then.

In my experience 'senior' X doesn't mean anything different to a usual X, it's just what they call you when you've been doing it for so long that you're not still daft enough to accept 'junior' money for it.

But I was right about one thing, HR are rubbish!

[Cooperinliverp00l]

It's a Senior Test Analyst role, not just test analyst. Presentations to clients on how the system works, training new testers, training clients for UAT, presentations to developers on test strategy, it's all part of the job.

This is all true.....Shoe i think you didn't read my original post. She is currently a tester which involves sitting at her desk writing plans, specs and execution. she is moving to a Senior Test Analyst which involve co-ordinating projects, attending meetings, dealing with customers (which may involve presentation overviews.) She has her interview today so will let you know what it was all about but as i suspect i think it is just to see how she presents herself and handles quick fire questions whilst trying to deliver a speach.

Thanks DodgyAgent for your coments as well..

[NickFitz]

It's a permie job so there are other things to consider like career potential, how well they fit with the organisation and all the other b0ll0cks that I could never stand.

Oh, BTW:

bollocks

[meridian]

I'd actually be quite annoyed if I were in her position. I don't see what relevance it has to the role. A test analyst role consists of being sat at your desk doing a load of testing. You need to interact of course, and know what you are talking about in meetings and be able to communicate in an effective way about technical issues, but all that should have been covered in the interview. Presenting is an entirely different skill which in my view is completely unrelated to the role. It sounds to me like someone in HR with no understanding of the role for which they are recruiting is just coming up with random nonsense with which to amuse themselves.

What is the point of HR? A 'B Ark' collective if ever there was one.

It's a Senior Test Analyst role, not just test analyst. Presentations to clients on how the system works, training new testers, training clients for UAT, presentations to developers on test strategy, it's all part of the job.

[shoes]

You obviously know more than me.

And my rates are quite reasonable.

Maybe the next time you have a job title you don't understand you could look on the internet? Maybe wikipedia?

[oracleslave]

You obviously know more than me.

Your best ever post.

[DodgyAgent]

No it doesn't, its a 'test analyst role'. I suspect it's the HR dept who deem it necessary. HR depts should have a sound understanding of the role they are recruiting for but invariably don't. You know, like recruitment agents.

Psst.. the next time you are recruiting for a test analyst it won't help if they are good at making sales presentations. Pass it on.

I am sorry. is there a rule book that dictates definitions for job roles?

The job is for a senoir test analyst which in my book is below testing consultant. It may just be that the job is for someone who can move up to the next job. I may not have read your or New Labour's "rules to job definitions", but some testing consultants do have to make presentations.

But then again not only do I not have your rule book, but I am also not privvy to the details of the requirements of this particular job so I do not jump to conclusions. You obviously know more than me.

[shoes]

It is not really for you to judge is it? If the employer deems it necessary then it is up to him. Maybe the job involves making sales presentations to clients.

No it doesn't, its a 'test analyst role'. I suspect it's the HR dept who deem it necessary. HR depts should have a sound understanding of the role they are recruiting for but invariably don't. You know, like recruitment agents.

Psst.. the next time you are recruiting for a test analyst it won't help if they are good at making sales presentations. Pass it on.

[DodgyAgent]

I'd actually be quite annoyed if I were in her position. I don't see what relevance it has to the role. A test analyst role consists of being sat at your desk doing a load of testing. You need to interact of course, and know what you are talking about in meetings and be able to communicate in an effective way about technical issues, but all that should have been covered in the interview. Presenting is an entirely different skill which in my view is completely unrelated to the role. It sounds to me like someone in HR with no understanding of the role for which they are recruiting is just coming up with random nonsense with which to amuse themselves.

What is the point of HR? A 'B Ark' collective if ever there was one.

It is not really for you to judge is it? If the employer deems it necessary then it is up to him. Maybe the job involves making sales presentations to clients.

[threaded]

They could always phone up and ask...

My daughter (who is a software trainer) had to do a presentation for her current job. The interviewers were delighted not to have to sit through yet another talk on the benefits of pension payroll management training. Although what they did get - 25 minutes on Jack the Ripper - was maybe not what they expected either.

ROFLOL. Can I steal that for my blog?

[Gonzo]

I'd actually be quite annoyed if I were in her position. I don't see what relevance it has to the role.

It's a permie job so there are other things to consider like career potential, how well they fit with the organisation and all the other b0ll0cks that I could never stand.

[shoes]

they have told her she will have to perform a 15 min presentation.

She is a Test Analyst going for a Senior Test Analyst role

I'd actually be quite annoyed if I were in her position. I don't see what relevance it has to the role. A test analyst role consists of being sat at your desk doing a load of testing. You need to interact of course, and know what you are talking about in meetings and be able to communicate in an effective way about technical issues, but all that should have been covered in the interview. Presenting is an entirely different skill which in my view is completely unrelated to the role. It sounds to me like someone in HR with no understanding of the role for which they are recruiting is just coming up with random nonsense with which to amuse themselves.

What is the point of HR? A 'B Ark' collective if ever there was one.

[Sockpuppet]

A Study into who is who on CUK.


Its like brookside only with AtW.

[DiscoStu]

15 minutes on boundary value analysis and equivalence partitioning. When she wakes them up at the end they'll have to politely pretend it was good.

HTH

[PorkPie]

I agree with WindyAnna - why would they want to hear about Jack the Ripper? I would assume if I was taking the interview that they had come to the wrong place!!