in `96 when I started - my contract started in December.
stayed at it until IR35 came in then went permie.
now in '07 I get a contract in August
and yet December and August are the slow times apparantly ...
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Originally posted by richard-af View PostI thought holiday was, by definition, time with an employer. So still under contract with them. No?
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Thanks for all the replies guys - it's been useful!
Currently, I'm in a situation where I'm working for a fairly small company who only have one project so far, and development work will come to an end by Nov time. So I'm bailing before things get nasty and the wolves start circling!
So I'm thinking I will resign on 1st Sep, and I have 14 days holidays...so this could work out quite nicely.
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I thought holiday was, by definition, time with an employer. So still under contract with them. No?
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Originally posted by shoes View PostIf you're permie and want to contract save up your holiday entitlement. Resign your permie role when you sign the contract and take your holiday up until your last day. You will then be available from the day your holiday starts. Your employer has to allow you to take your holiday entitlement as actual days off rather than a payment in lieu due to some directive or other.
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If you're permie and want to contract save up your holiday entitlement. Resign your permie role when you sign the contract and take your holiday up until your last day. You will then be available from the day your holiday starts. Your employer has to allow you to take your holiday entitlement as actual days off rather than a payment in lieu due to some directive or other.
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This comes up a lot and has a big impact on chances of getting a contract. If the agent has 6 people with the right skills, he is likely to choose the most available (or the cheapest if not on PSL). Permies often dip a toe in, apply for contracts then wet themselves because it's only 3 months and run back to their pension plans.
This makes the agent look a chump and they have to start again. You can bet they don't put a permie in again.
You HAVE to be available or appear to be, tell them the place is getting outsourced/end of project anything that means you are hungry for the work. That gives you a chance of being put forward (even if the agent says you will be, someone else might come in better and you get bumped off, agent won't tell you this)
Once you have the contract, go to your current boss, say you have been offered this role (claim a mate put you forward if you want) and that you would like to leave. Usually they will let you go early/unpaid/annual leave stored etc. Most places will wait 2 weeks and more if you are unique and they have been looking for ages.
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One thing most companies allow you to do is take unpaid leave. Say you have 4 weeks notice and find a contract that starts in two weeks then take two weeks unpaid.
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I am always amazed how people can get a contract before handing in their notice and have the client wait, I guess it must work for very niche stuff.
Another point if you hand in your notice it will focus your mind!!
I did hear one story of a bloke (this is going back a bit now) whom hadn't handed in his notice but told agencies he was immediately available, he secured a contract, he then told his boss he had just accepted a job with a key competitor, at this point he was shown the door!! so became immediately available
Probably just an urban myth but I like it.Last edited by gables; 22 August 2007, 22:26.
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostSeptember seems to be a bit better than summer, from what I can see - people are back from summer holidays. December to middle of January can be slow, as people are on a wind-down for Christmas.
I found April was slow for Oracle development, but I'm quite picky about what I want to be doing, where, and at what price.
On topic: I'm also just looking for my first contract, finding that turnaround is slow at the moment due to hols but plenty of opportunities. Doing it the safe way as well and not yet handed in my notice - for the most part it's not caused too many problems, so if you're unsure it might be worth testing the water in this way first.
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September seems to be a bit better than summer, from what I can see - people are back from summer holidays. December to middle of January can be slow, as people are on a wind-down for Christmas.
I found April was slow for Oracle development, but I'm quite picky about what I want to be doing, where, and at what price.
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My previous contract ended in November and I thought I'd be screwed at least until January, but walked straight into another one.
I'd always been told that September was the peak time, and that the summer would be dead. But my impression is that things have evened out over the year.
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If you have a buffer of cash to last a few months I would do it now - if not It may be a good idea to get some funds together inc. 2.5k first.
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