Better rate advertised for my job...

[oraclesmith]

Its one thing for an EB to advertise the role at a certain rate, but it's quite another to get it at that rate !

How do you know the other EB isn't simply competing with your EB for the best candidates, only to beat them down at a later date. It has been done, you know.

Anyhow, you must have been happy with the rate until now, so why be concerned with something you can't have?

[dotnetter]

My god, you sound like a whinging employee instead of a business entity in your own right. I sincerely hope you are not claiming to be outside IR35 because you sure don't deserve to be. Since when has it been justified for one contractor's terms and rate to be the same as anothers? The contractor is probably a better negotiator than you, that's all.

Get over it. It's contractors like you that give us all a bad name and reinforce the perception that we're not really businesses but casual employees.

It's one thing EBs screwing up for big mark ups that are unjustified and if that results in a rate differential then you need to talk to the EB, but to start comparing rates as if they are pay levels for the 'same job' (did I read you right?....

Oh do get off your high horse, what I said about the other contractor on more than me was just tongue in cheek more than anything sorry if that passed you by.

There is no other contractor yet, just a position for the people that can't be arsed to read the original post properly.

All I'm saying is I want to get more money out the agent, because he's quite obviously lying to me.

And don't talk bollocks about being inside or outside of IR35 cos this has nothing to do with it.

And as for me giving contractors a bad name, well I think your going slightly over the mark there. So please think before you make sweeping statements like that based on one post.

Don't make out your some special business person or something, we all do the same job we all know the business and how it works. We all know why contractors run Ltd companies, I have at least 3 clients on the go at one time I tender for work, and I do project based work also, my company is run as a services company but I'm the only employee. So just worry about yourself and being a business entity not me

[NetwkSupport]

Surely you were happy with the rate when you took the job? if you've bene there more than 6 months and theres a renewal coming up then yeah you should ask for an increase...

I suppose im looking at it from another angle cos I kept turning down my current contract because of the agency's terms (the client asked for me directly) and they kept offering better terms so i know im on more than all the other contractors.

Rule No.1 of contracting - dont discuss your rate!!

[rootsnall]

No it's £30 a day.

Thing is now I know this agent is probably earning bundles off me and want a rate increase before I sign a new contract, plus I dont want another contractor coming in and earning more than me for doing the same job, can't have that

I just managed a whopping 25 quid a day increase on renewal by being nice to the agent and he said OK, makes me think his margin must be BIG ! However I'd say that is almost a first, if you really do want your 30 quid you've got to convince the agent you will walk if you don't get it and induce some kicking and screaming as a minimum.

[el duder]

The company I'm working for are looking for another contractor to do the exact same job as me, anyway got an email from a different agency advertising the role but the rate is £30 higher than mine!

They have offered an extension which I havnt signed yet, and when I spoke to the agent he informed me my rate was the top of their budget (obviously).

Now I find out he's lying to me, and I've sent him an email asking for a rate increase.

What's my options here to make sure I get the better rate?

You are obviously tulip at what u do therefore deserve lower money.

[dotnetter]

Wouldn't there be a clause about working for the same company?

[The Lone Gunman]

Yeah spose that my plan, I cancelled an interview this morning as well for a contract that was an extra £70 a day at least

Only because I wanted this contract to be longer on my CV now I'm thinking I've messed up

Show the agent the offer of interview and tell him you were offered the job. Ask him if he can match the terms, that will at least give him something to think about.

[dotnetter]

Yeah spose that my plan, I cancelled an interview this morning as well for a contract that was an extra £70 a day at least

Only because I wanted this contract to be longer on my CV now I'm thinking I've messed up

[ChimpMaster]

Find another contract and leave, or at the very least tell the agent you're going to do it - and then do it if he does not comply.

[dotnetter]

No it's a liberty, I'm not having it

[ContractIn]

No it's £30 a day.

Thing is now I know this agent is probably earning bundles off me and want a rate increase before I sign a new contract, plus I dont want another contractor coming in and earning more than me for doing the same job, can't have that

Get over it. Happens all the time, your next contract could be higher than both. Fact of life, someone is always doing better than you!

[dotnetter]

No it's £30 a day.

Thing is now I know this agent is probably earning bundles off me and want a rate increase before I sign a new contract, plus I dont want another contractor coming in and earning more than me for doing the same job, can't have that

[Flubster]

The company I'm working for are looking for another contractor to do the exact same job as me, anyway got an email from a different agency advertising the role but the rate is £30 higher than mine!

They have offered an extension which I havnt signed yet, and when I spoke to the agent he informed me my rate was the top of their budget (obviously).

Now I find out he's lying to me, and I've sent him an email asking for a rate increase.

What's my options here to make sure I get the better rate?

Depends on the agency's margin. Agent 'B' may be offering a higher rate becasue they are absorbing the lower margin. The client may be offering the same rate to each agent.

If it's £30/day, just accept the difference as a fact of life and then decide if you want to renew with Agent 'A'. If it's £30/hour, I'd definitely have something to say...

[dotnetter]

The company I'm working for are looking for another contractor to do the exact same job as me, anyway got an email from a different agency advertising the role but the rate is £30 higher than mine!

They have offered an extension which I havnt signed yet, and when I spoke to the agent he informed me my rate was the top of their budget (obviously).

Now I find out he's lying to me, and I've sent him an email asking for a rate increase.

What's my options here to make sure I get the better rate?